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House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration's authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

It's not a lie when one party is fascist. Trying to split just ensures Nazi rule like IT JUST FICKING DID

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago
[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

Democrats suck the fattest corporate dick, lovingly, and laugh at the poor fighting amongst themselves, but it's not good to dilute such a serious label as fascist with something you don't like.

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Nothing is 'diluted' about that term. Being complicit in genocide, extreme violence and prosecution simply for protesting it. Putting kids in cages, imperialism, regime change, warmongering, and plenty more. They are fascist, they're just too full of themselves to admit it. It's not good to negate these serious facts just because you don't like it.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Your final little retort there mocking me is the most childish thing I've read on the internet in a little bit. You can compare a mountain to a molehill if you like but I think we have bigger problems to worry about.

What solution do you propose to not working with the Democrats right now? Splitting the party and forming a progressive party hoping for scraps from the right that just want guns AND weed and don't care about trans folks? What's your plan besides being angry at Corporate Democrats? Have you donated to any of our more progressive Representatives?

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Nobody needs to split anything or work with them. 3rd parties already exist, even if they get scammed and sabotaged by your beloved party. "donated to any of our more progressive Representatives" LOL let me know who these 'progressives' are. BTW I'm European, not from your uniparty pseudo democracy and therefore can think outside the box. Your county's politics are ridiculous and embarrassing. I'm really happy you got Trump. Him destroying your country is the best thing that could happen for the world.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

I'm European

Then shut the fuck up you aren't a welcome part of this conversation

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Then shut the fuck up you aren’t a welcome part of this conversation

The centrist response to anyone being unhappy with Netanyahu's wing of the party.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Your solution please? I'm not holding anyone without one that wants to chirp in very high regard.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

At the moment, the party needs to do what it can. They need to gum up the works. They need to go on the fucking attack.

What they don't need to do is continue with this mealy-mouthed bipartisan shit. They don't need any more unanimous confirmations.

Now order me to shut up because that's the closest thing any centrist has ever had to a solution.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Did I disagree with any of what you said anywhere? That's working with the party. I'm looking for a plan from anybody saying to split the party. Those are good ideas that I agree with and have been pushing my state reps for.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I’m looking for a plan from anybody saying to split the party.

Ok. We take over the Green Party. They're a tiny party with even tinier primaries. Progressives could just saunter in and take it if they were so inclined. We would have the apparatus of an established party that we wouldn't have to build from the ground up. We could extract concessions from Democrats by threatening to run. Or just run. If Democrats are so concerned about splitting the vote, they don't have to field a candidate. It's not like they're interested in winning anyway.

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

LOL look at him seething. Your meddling imperialist regime and its horrible politics are a plague for the entire world so it does concern us. If it bothers you, then stay TF out of everyone's bussiness. You really are a typical american. Thinking he can decide who can speak. Pretentious AF. Anyway, enjoy coping with your loss and becoming even more of a poor backward shithole. You're all top entertainment.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

So you don't have a solution, have only an imagined dog in the race, and like name calling. You sound like a typical American too.

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I told you the solution, you having trouble with comprehensive reading? I know literacy is appauling over there but still. Or continue your race to the bottom with these 2 forever worse parties and learn nothing. From the many tonedeaf and vile frustrated reactions of dem loser politicians and voters I fear this will be the case. They rather blame people for not voting for genocide joe or genocide copmala. Both of these parties serve only the upper class.

I will leave you with some words from 1870. Even then it was painfully obvious they both shit on you dumb plebs that fall for their little act.

Nowhere do “politicians” form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics, who speculate on seats in the legislative assemblies of the Union as well as of the separate states, or who make a living by carrying on agitation for their party and on its victory are rewarded with positions. It is well known that the Americans have been striving for 30 years to shake off this yoke, which has become intolerable, and that in spite of all they can do they continue to sink ever deeper in this swamp of corruption.

Hey, do something unamerican, try reading a book sometimes.

T

[-] WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

There is only one party and its fascist. They're not the same because they're just as bad. They're the same because they're on the same team.

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