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submitted 23 hours ago by Cat@ponder.cat to c/politics@lemmy.world

House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration's authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 18 minutes ago

The headline almost reads like an Onion article.

[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 3 points 59 minutes ago
[-] fikran@lemm.ee 9 points 1 hour ago

I voted 3rd party in the election in a swing state and would do it again today.

The Democrats need to internalize the political cost of supporting Israel. If they want to win, they have to drop Israel.

[-] caboose2006@lemm.ee 7 points 1 hour ago

Are you happy with the current administration's Israel policy though?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

I don’t think that is a lesson to take away here

A party with more support for Israel won so if that was the issue then it seems they didn’t support Israel enough

[-] anonymous_in_atl@ani.social 16 points 3 hours ago

If they're so pissed about it, the progressives should just pack up and form a new party or join the WFP

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Yeah it's a clever lie that's perpetuated that says progressives have no where to go if they try to break from the Democrats. But secretly a more progressive platform would actually draw over a lot of disaffected libertarians and lite conservatives who only vote conservative because they've been convinced that they should only vote in opposition to Democrats instead of in favor of anything.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 33 points 4 hours ago

Better get fucking used to it bluedogs.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 21 points 2 hours ago

We need a Democratic Tea Party movement very badly.

Unfortunately, I already know the people who would lead it would also never get past making the rules of who's included, what kind of tea we'll be using, and if it's ethically sourced, and if any members have any problematic tweets in their past, what particular brand of socialism everyone subscribes to, and of course, what we're actually demanding from the government.

Say what you want about the right, but their superficial, Ork-like focus on goals gets them moving. Too bad those goals are usually things like "Vote against our best interests as much as humanly possible."

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I am only donating to AOC until she and her fellow progressives gain a larger voice in the direction of the party. I've unsubbed from a lot of Democratic lists, too.

I advise all to do the same (as she can allocate these money to elsewhere if she wishes), while also contacting the DNC at https://democrats.org/

[-] Willowbae3 2 points 1 hour ago

Here's a thought instead of blowing your money supporting candidates that already have access to massive amounts of cash, donate it to the Trevor project, planned parenthood or literally any nonprofit.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

OR here's a thought — now hear me out — you don't because those charitable donations are a treatment of a symptomatic issue reflective of failed government policy to begin with. So if you really want to address the root cause and actually reshape the party from a top-down approach, then I encourage you follow my strategy.

Or you know, you can donate to both.

  • The more money that goes to AOC, the greater her voice in the Democratic party.
  • The greater her voice, the greater the progressive shift in the Democratic party.
  • The greater the progressive shift in progressive economic populism, the better outcomes for Women's and LGBTQ+ rights.
[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 19 points 4 hours ago

The Democrats in question would likely say they're upset progressives are getting mad at Democrats as if they have the power to pass bills or do much of anything. Yelling "do something" isn't helping when your party doesn't have any power.

Ironically the most power Democrats have is thanks to the filibuster, which Progressives campaigned against for years.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 hour ago

When the R’s are in a minority they seem to block everything just fine though…

[-] petrol_sniff_king 8 points 1 hour ago

Maybe if they can't do anything, these useless fucks should all resign and retire. Clearly, it wouldn't make one difference.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Progressives have even less power. You want them to all resign and retire?

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

Do nothing even though the conservatives and rich tech companies are taking over the federal government!

They have millions, they can do many things to make conservatives work harder every single time, they can run protest, they can amplifiy their voices behind one leader, they can do alot of things....

Vichy-Democrats.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago

I'm sure they've already ran the numbers and realized getting power to exploit the people from winning is far less likely than getting it from switching sides.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 16 points 4 hours ago

I could swear this shit is like the plot from The Producers. They've monetized their incompetence and realized that they can make more money from losing elections than from winning. They collect billions in donations from desperate people and then launder it, squandering it on ineffectual "vote blue" spam while awarding lucrative no bid consultancy contracts with friendly party aristocracy insiders for massive kick backs and "speaking fees".

Kamala "I'm Speaking" Harris never intended to do anything OTHER than speaking. Seems the democrat establishment doesn't want any of us remembering that TALK IS CHEAP.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

LOL it does seem eerily similar to the plot of the producers.

[-] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

So they are silently just watching when Murica burns to the ground.

[-] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 33 points 11 hours ago

If they even run primaries....

[-] holdstrong@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Primary every republican.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 38 points 13 hours ago

Luckily, if the world survives Trump the Democrats won't matter anymore because America won't matter. The rest of the world was pretty pissed off at the USA before, but still allowed America to keep its leverage because challenging it would be too much effort. Trump, however, is actively destroying that leverage through his trade wars and his cancelling of foreign aid at the same time that he's stripping his own government of its ability to function through his purges.

The only pillar of American influence that Trump isn't destroying directly is the country's media exports, and they were already in the process of collapsing before Trump was re-elected.

You got your high position in the world in the first place due to the fact that you were the only major power left standing after the world wars. Those circumstances won't happen again (well, world wars might, but not ones that leave the USA unscathed.)

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The US has been going all-in on hard power while soft power declines. There's a lot of rich individuals who benefit from military contracts but don't care as much about actually maintaining the empire. The big risk is that Americans are going to recognize this disparity and start WWIII in an effort to leverage the one area that the US has an advantage to retain hegemony.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

A big military is an expensive military, and if the American economy collapses it'll be hard to maintain that military.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

That's great for the rest of the world, be we still have to deal with this mess somehow.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Same foreign policy, same bullying strategy, but now they are: 1) public about it, 2) Targeting countries that help them being who they are for the last 70 years.

[-] onecarmel@lemmy.world 74 points 17 hours ago

Yeah I have completely lost faith in the Democratic Party. Seems like they don’t mind Trump because he benefits their wallet.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Democrats biggest donors are wealthy Republicans.

Hakeem Jeffries is one of the biggest sellouts. Him climbing the DNC ladder is a sign that Democrats will do yet another 2016 in 2028.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

AIPAC as well if trump supporting Israel publicly they will never replace. And if both party turn out to be "end of life" lunatic who want kingdom of Israel then they will never change or push against a President who is pushing for the same goal even though he clearly doesn't believe in anything.

[-] fikran@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

That's why its important to introduce Israel as a political liability for the Democrats.

Demonstrate that they lose elections because of their support for Israel.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 106 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The US needs a left-wing Party.

This has been half a century of Fascists vs neoliberals, center-right "free to be LGBTQ as you die of poverty in the gutter" vs so far right we're building Concentration camps.

Unfortunately our people have been poorly educated by design as well as brainwashed into believing profit comes before humanity. " Herp derp Anything less is socialism and therefore evil!"

This is only "freedom" for the rich to trample the poor. Freedom without social responsibility is a rampage. We need revolution, revolution that does far more to Wall Street than merely occupy it , or we need to accept living in hell until the capitalists destroy the climate enough to destroy civilization all together.

Don't worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we're failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

This isnt the usual ebbs and flows of history, There is a very literal deadline of humanity's own greedy making.

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

Support psl

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Don't worry, just a few more decades of the same at most for nature to do what we're failing to. This will end within a human lifespan, the choice is if it will be with or without a habitable planet for Humans.

That’s the plan. That’s why billionaires are buying up properties in places that are currently too cold and remote for masses of people to want to live there (Montana, Greenland, etc).

They know climate change is real and it is 100% reflected in Homeowners insurance rates in FL and other high risk places. I’m fairly certain that it’s not the leftist types that get into starting insurance companies.

Also, the whole Covid thing… I am pretty sure there was a concerted effort that would cull our numbers a bit.

So yea, we’re all going to die probably — unless you’re rich enough to afford to move to somewhere that will have a more hospitable climate when we cross the 3 degrees Celsius threshold next year.

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[-] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 122 points 20 hours ago

Progressives need to start their own party. The establishment DNC is so entrenched with big donors and lobbyists that it is unable to serve the people. Their balancing act of appeasing both the right and the left is just serving to alienate everyone because the final policies get so diluted. They have become too stuck in the quagmire of their own doing. I don’t see the DNC being able to change any time soon and through their inaction, will only enable more devastation of the country.

The new Progressive party should align with the DNC as the opposition during this administration but simultaneously run more like minded candidates in the next elections with their own separate fundraising campaigns. That’s the only hope I have for meaningful change to happen.

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[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 63 points 19 hours ago


If only the fought as hard as they spam & grift

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[-] evenglow@lemmy.world 220 points 23 hours ago

"Forcing recorded votes is possible. Frequent quorum calls are possible. A wide variety of dilatory motions are possible. In short, harassing the majority is possible. If they think it's a bad idea, say so. If they say it's not possible, they're lying."

I like how politicians voting is considered a time out. It's their job, jfc.

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