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[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 51 points 1 week ago

I personally find it easier to sidestep the rights issue and just say "we CAN ensure everyone has healthcare, so we should do that". Whether people have a right or not is sort of irrelevant if you see government as having a duty to materially improve people's lives.

[-] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

But trans people would get healthcare too and we can't have that. /s

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A lot of people think that specifically is not the government's duty, though. You'd have to first convince them that the government's duty isn't simply to defend against invasion, or enforce the will of the people, or whatever else they believe.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Invasion from what? Mongols? Flu virus? Smoke?

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago

We have the right to lofe liberty and the persuit of happiness.

Not having proper healthcare coverage is literally against that right.

[-] loudambiance@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

While I would love to agree with you, the way I read the 14th amendment is that the government can not do anything (or pass any laws) that would deprive you of those rights. It does not imply (in my opinion) that they are required to do things to ensure you have those rights.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Congrats, you just discovered strict vs. loose interpretation.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

But but but then THOSE people will have them, too, and we can't abide THOSE people having nice things.

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