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Looking for Potential Mods (self.queer_defense_front)
submitted 2 days ago by Teknevra to c/queer_defense_front

As the title says, I'm looking for some potential mods to help run this community.

If you are interested, are a current mod of the QDL Subreddit, etc., then drop a comment to this post explaining why you believe that you would be a good fit for mod.

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

Hello,

Be aware the reports don't federate, so people modding from non local accounts won't get reports.

Edit: don't always federate

[-] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Blaze... You were already corrected on that by someone else some time ago and you're a mod too. Reports DO federate but it's just that sometimes they don't. Also try informing users that this will be fixed in the lemmy v1 to let them know it will be fixed. In fact it was already implemented and some other stuff needs work before the full release of v1.

This is literally misinfo.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

that sometimes they don’t.

Indeed.

Below in the comments I quote https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701 which was opened in May, and https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744 which was closed last week.

Nutomic today

I implemented reports federation recently, in current versions it is not available at all. So you may have to wait until version 1.0, though @MrKaplan mentioned that he plans to backport it to 0.19.x

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37507379/16612227

v1 isn't released yet.

The current advice from LW is

Note that, due to a bug in Lemmy, you will not be able to see reports in the community since your account is on a different instance. You could work around it by making a lemmy.world account just for moderating.

https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true

How is this misinformation?

If it is, how come that none of the instance admins in that thread corrected me?

https://lemmy.world/post/24576402

Edit: I just tried it again, sent a report from a comment on !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net from my Lemmy.zip account. I have a remote account (the one I'm writing this comment with) as a remote mod. I did not get the report.

[-] Teknevra 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've already told @Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com that this is not the issue, and I've demonstrated to him that he's wrong.

Unfortunately, the federation issue isn't that simple. If it were, I would've submitted another LBZ application a long time ago. I'm unclear what exactly causes the problem, or if it's even one thing causing it...but what I do know is that even if you have a LBZ account, you won't get a complete list of reports because some of them don't federate properly.

SDF was the most reliable place to see a complete list, but they blocked LBZ and kbin today, so that really throws a wrench in things.... Qaz was the one who figured all this out, so when it's closer to morning time in his country I'll have to shoot him a message and find out what the next best place is.

In the meantime, I have an alt on lemm.ee that seems to catch most of what my LW account misses (@A_Very_Big_Fan@lemm.ee). I can add it as a mod if you want.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

and I’ve demonstrated to him that he’s wrong.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well...

Report federation used to work. I appointed several mods from other instances back then. The issue seemed to have appeared in May 2024 (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701).

The issue has been closed last week (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744), and the fix still has to be released.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The issue you linked applies to a version of Lemmy that neither LW or LBZ use. Or any instance, as far as I'm aware.

Again, looking at the modlog is all it takes to demonstrate that you're mistaken. We are actively resolving reports on our remote accounts.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

This other issue was also opened in May: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

I don't want to go through the update timelines of LW and LBZ, but on !support@lemmy.world, LW admins still state that

Note that, due to a bug in Lemmy, you will not be able to see reports in the community since your account is on a different instance. You could work around it by making a lemmy.world account just for moderating.

https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true

I had a look at the modlog, it works in this case indeed ( https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/2942?page=1&actionType=All&modId=115895 ). I am not saying it never works. I am saying that there are known cases where it does not, which is why the LW admins recommend people to use local accounts. Maybe in this case it's because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?

I also posted about in 19 days ago on !fedigrow@lemm.ee: https://lemmy.world/post/24576402 . Other mods and admins reported other actions that would not federate. Nobody contradicted the fact that it could be working sometimes.

The consensus recommendation is just to use local accounts while we wait for the fix to be released. It's just easier than to try to figure out what works and what does not, in which conditions, etc.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

You don't see any reports from a non-local account.

Be aware the reports don't federate, so people modding from non local accounts won't get reports.

I am not saying it never works.

Maybe not currently, but that is what you have been saying.

Maybe in this case it's because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?

No.

There are federation issues with reports, but it's not as simple as you've been saying, and having a local account doesn't solve it. There's a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don't federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

There’s a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don’t federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

So mods who don't have that specific set of alts don't see all reports? That should probably be raised to all the mods of the platform, as your team seems to be the only one aware of that issue.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

IIRC Qaz has mentioned it in the LBZ mod channel in Matrix at least once. If they didn't hear it from him, it should be obvious something's up when Ada tells them there are unresolved reports and their mod queue is empty.

If you feel it should be shouted from the rooftops, then nobody is stopping you.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Hello @qaz@lemmy.world ,

Could you please provide some details on why you need all of the alts to mod !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone ?

Seems like there are several reports that don’t federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

That's a an issue that does not seems well know (as stated in the comments above, the general recommendation from the LW admins is to use a local account).

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

@Nothing4You@programming.dev, as you reported https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701 , could you please tell if there any known occurrences of local moderators not getting reports for local communities?

You can read the thread above for details.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not even talking about LBZ or !196

If all reports don't make it to local mods, then that's an issue that's impacting the whole platform, hundreds of communities.

I'm to reread the thread when Moss and Ada explained their versions of the issue, because this doesn't seem right.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

You are welcome. Thank you a lot for your posts on Reddit, I try to relay them on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com, you definitely make a difference!

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