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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 383 points 3 months ago

As an American, I'm rooting for Canada.

But this all feels very by design of Putin to fracture US alliances.

[-] Dreamless4561@sh.itjust.works 212 points 3 months ago

I’m so upset at my Canadian family members who supported Trump.

I got an uncle who was constantly saying he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business” - i don’t think either trump or him actually understand business all that well.

I hope Canadian-European relations get stronger, and hopefully Canadian-American relations will be rebuilt once this fucker is gone

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 141 points 3 months ago

Does your uncle realize trump was able to bankrupt a casino? Where they can can almost literally print money. And not just one, but three of them. This man is literally one of the most inept businessmen I have ever seen.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 63 points 3 months ago

3 casinos. Trump bankrupted 3 casinos.

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

He is incompetent, confused and weak. Just what Putin wanted.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Yep. Of course. And SO easily manipulated and too dumb to even realize it.

[-] ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

This is the most accurate statement. There’s a reason why Trump wants Greenland, Canada, and Panama. Russia also wants all these. Wants free reign to move their boats and military through these areas and to be able to use the Panama Canal again.

The more I see all the stuff going on here, the more I am coming to realize that the orange taintstainy is just a Putin muppet puppet.

Everything this man does seems to appease Russia.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 89 points 3 months ago

That's the fallacy that I thought was learned back with Ross Perot. You don't run a country like a business. It's a government.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure that people who say they want to "run the country like a business" just think it sounds good but haven't put 2 braincells worth of thought into it. Businesses exist to make money. Government exists to serve citizens.

Do you want firefighters showing up to your burning house and asking for a credit card before they put out the fire? Or maybe have the post office decide that it's not profitable enough to service entire states? The whole idea is moronic.

[-] SkyeStarfall 13 points 3 months ago

And it's dumb, because, in the end, where is all that profit supposed to go?

The answer obviously is, to improve the country and the quality of life of its citizens, so we're back to square one anyway

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

I mean, America already charge their citizens for healthcare, so they're not that far off from your hypothetical

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Also the USPS is too busy delivering papers full of ads and junk mail, rather than investigating mail theft.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 6 points 3 months ago

How was it learned and when. Where I can lear more? Wikipedia didn't have any clear answers

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

It wasn't learned. He was a 3rd party presidential candidate that ran on being a business man not a politician. He came in third.

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[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 months ago

Do you tell him that Trump has filed for bankruptcy six times with his companies? What does that say about his business acumen? How often has your uncle filed for bankruptcy?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That doesn't work. The hardcore Trump supporters think bankruptcy is a genius life hack to get out from having to repay debts.

They actually believe it's smart to borrow money, hide them in other businesses and personal accounts, then declare bankruptcy to keep the money. To the rest of the world, that's called "embezzlement."

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Don't forget the inflate the value of your assets so you can borrow even more money, but declare them as a lesser value on your taxes.

[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Those kind of people generally answer that he bankrupted « because of Biden ».

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[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 months ago

The "run government like a business" crowd gets to me. I'd like to see business run like a government. Owned and controlled by the workers.

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

It's one of the dumbest perspectives I've heard that continues to irk me. Why the fuck would you want something that's supposed to do X to do Y instead?

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 months ago

I'm up in the middle of nowhere Ontario in the north surrounded mostly by trees and lakes and not even remotely close to anything American .... but yet I still have a few friends and family who love your dumb orange beanbag president.

I don't understand the pull that this idiot has on people or the millionaires and billionaires that pour their money into him for some god forsaken reason.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My mum last night on text.

"We’ll see what shithead Trump retaliates with tomorrow. The only way to stop the maniac is with a bullet!"

"Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?"

"Trudeau is doing a great job!" (Referring to the presser)

I'm glad I don't have your family OP

Edit - for the kids out there my mum is 74. She's a baby boomer. Some of them are good people. They are not well off. I told my parents with the tariffs coming if they find themselves struggling to let me know because I will help in any way I can.

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

“Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?”

I guess she hasn't noticed shithead was back on the golf course a week after he was sworn in.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Cut her some slack she's 74 lol

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I appreciate your mom. My old man is a crass Appalachian boomer and speaks in a similar tone and diction with respect to Trump.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

His ancestors are weeping

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[-] spooky2092 25 points 3 months ago

he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business”

THIS MOTHERFUCKER BANKRUPTED A CASINO.

People say they want him to run the country like a business, but that man bankrupted a money printing machine, probably because he was doing all kinds of illegal shit and didn't actually run his business like a business. Why would he run a money printing country any different than his money printing business.

My dumbass uncle feels the same way as yours, and I have to bite my tongue so after to remind him that he and trump have something in common: they both embezzled from their company until it died.

[-] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

He will run the country like he does all of his businesses; into the ground.

He even failed at running a casino. Except this time he will likely be burying thousands of Americans along with the country.

[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

i'm still waiting for an explanation on how running anything like a business is objectively a good thing.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

both Canadian and American retirement portfolios will suffer. i don't know why anyone would root for such a thing at all

[-] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 months ago

Trump started it, now is not the time to think how this is bad. You need to choose a side and act accordingly with countermeasures, which will likely escalate further.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

how about not doing that instead

[-] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

No I think a strong united response is necessary. We are in for hard times either way.

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, it's Putin who's totally controlling trump and making him do tarrifs. After all, Putin leads hamas, putin did 9/11, putin killed millions in Iraq, Putin killed millions the middle east, Putin's funding UAE and Israeli genocides against Sudan and Palestine How peaceful the world would be without Putin /s

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

mUH wHataBoUTiSm. I'm shocked this user is from .ml

Shocked, I tell you.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

No he is dead on. The US has been shooting itself in the foot for decades in order to murder little brown kids.

The only way your argument makes any sense is if Russia ordered Biden to commit genocide and throw the election. The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump. They are no smarter or better than the Republicans.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

More wHataBoUTiSm from another .ml account.

Again, just shocked. Tu quoque fallacy at its finest.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

So you believe the Democrats corruption and incompetence is natural and AIPAC has nothing to do with it. But the Republicans corruption is POOTIN!

Meanwhile the first person Trump invites is Netanyahu.

If someone said the same things about Israel controlling the US as you are saying about Russia, ignoring that the links to Russia are far far smaller, you would call them an anti Semite.

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

I didn't want to believe it, but .world and Reddit powermod user overlap must be real high. They all are like a hivemind of "making fun of tankie" aka the liberal version of "woke"

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The mods are sure acting like reddit mods. They're already the self-appointed arbiters of truth.

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That too somewhat, but I ment more .world users, it's the only place and the only type of users who actively fight on the wrong side and bring up Reddit arguments and the worst of reddit behaviour into Lemmy

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Seeing the same. Not that many different users either, just really vocal.

[-] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I've noticed that too, keep seeing the same people pop up all the time, even in different instances of the same community

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[-] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

How is this whataboutism? They only pointed out that the US has a long history of doing shitty things without being controlled by some foreign actor. It's perfectly plausible that Trump is doing shitty things because he thinks he will personally gain something out of it, without anyone pulling his strings. He just doesn't care if the rest of the country goes up in flames.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not whataboutism. He's pointing out the empire has been going far longer than anything having to do with Trump. I'm apparently not allowed to discuss anything else about that here though, because the mods know the absolute truth about all things and will decide what ideas are allowed to be spoken.

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[-] petrol_sniff_king 4 points 3 months ago

I mean, at the very least, the man could take his dick out of the Ukraine.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Very peaceful. Putin's a busy man, with his hands pulling a lot of strings.

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[-] LemmyThinkAboutIt@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just hope Canada, Europe and Mexico unite and start working closely together. Fuck the USA under Musk (trump). Together we are strong. Much stronger than individually.

Feels bad to say but the USA haven't been a reliable partner since the first time they elected Trump. Who knows what they'll stand for in 4 years? A normal person or a complete lunatic that has already disassembled the legal structures few days after getting into office? Hard to know. Very unreliable and extremely concerning.

I cant believe americans are letting this happen while sitting by idly.

I can’t think of a single alliance in history that went from unbreakable to garbage within three weeks because of the whims of one person that should honestly be „dealt with“ before it’s too late.

Writing this as a German with rather conservative views.

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