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[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

i think most people don't really want to die. and they like living for all sorts of reasons. i hope you can think of at least a few reasons you'd like to go on living as well.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I don't want to die, but living forever sounds exhausting.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

if you don't want to die now, and you don't want to live forever, is there some specific age/time you would like to die, if you didn't have to?

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's an interesting question.

After thinking over it briefly, I believe I'd like to die when I'm ready to die. I can't declare in advance when that would be age- or time-wise and I can't even necessarily define the conditions that would make me feel ready, as I've never yet felt ready to die.

Right now, I have a little kid and a decent quality of life. I don't want to die until my kid can be on their own and I don't think I'd want to live after my quality of life declined past a certain point though, again, I can't say yet what that point would be.

I'm sorry, I know this is an unsatisfactory answer, but it's the best I have at the moment. I'll try to pontificate on the matter and get back to you if I come up with anything better.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

do you want your kid to die someday as well? what if your quality of life didn't have to become bad? immortalists such as myself (that is, people who don't want people to have to die, and support scientific efforts to make that a reality) don't want people to just, like, persist in a state of unending geriatric decrepitude, we want folks to be able to live as long and healthy lives as possible.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I don't wanna live forever. But the act of dying is usually pretty horrible, so I wanna push that off as long as possible.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

pushing off dying as long as possible, if done successfully, is living forever though? do you not see the contradiction in what you wrote?

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

No. Humans aren't psychically able to be immortal without genetic engineering, which as far as the public knows, we don't have yet. Certain death is currently hard codded into our genes. Since I wasn't genetically modified as an embryo, I cannot live forever.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

i feel like you've shifted the goalposts, here. previously, you said you didn't want to live forever, now you're just saying you can't live forever.

also, we absolutely do have genetic engineering. it's been a thing since the 70s. the covid-19 vaccine, for instance, was a feat of genetic engineering. furthermore, techniques such as gene therapy can indeed modify the genetic information of adults.

P.S. i assumed you meant physically, rather than psychically, but if you did mean the latter, then i have no idea what you're talking about.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

I can’t live forever. But I also don’t want to. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. And yes, we have genetic engineering, but nothing so far that would make humans immortal.

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