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Following sermon, Trump and his allies target Episcopal bishop
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Pause on this moment. Don't pass by it and write it off as more fantastical nonsense.
Hold it up to the light, really examine it. They want to start to detain millions of supposedly-illegal people, and "deport" them. Some of them were born here. Some of them came here as small children. But they're going to be "deported," presumably to somewhere vaguely related to where they "came from." That's going to happen. Whether it happens on the scale of millions like they want to do remains to be seen. But it's definitely going to happen to some number of people, and federal law enforcement is making a push to gain the ability to kick in some random person's door and force them to leave the country, and to start to do it at a pretty massive scale, whatever they can raise up the manpower for.
This isn't the first time I've seen this. Why do they fantasize sometimes about "deporting" anyone who makes them unhappy? Even if they're not Hispanic or any sort of immigrant, legal or illegal?
They didn't arrive at the word at random. There's a specific pattern of thoughts that makes them start reaching for the idea of deporting her, instead of charging her with a particular crime or anything like that. And there's a specific type of law enforcement agency and justice system that's generally in charge of deportation proceedings, that is different from the normal structures of civilian law enforcement and a jury of your peers.
They are watering down the impact the word "deportation" has for the public so that they can get away with more. That is what is actually happening.
It's feels like it's because deep down they all know 'deport' means 'forced work camp' since no country will actually take them.
It's so transparent and yet so few really do pause on this moment and understand the severity of what this means for this kind of talk to be normalized so soon. For a Seig Heil to be normalized so soon and excused as "misunderstood." They have no principles, none, there is no bottom and they find a perverse joy in hurting those they have power over.
People need to be aware of just how deep in this we are.
Yeah. I think the predictable trajectory of "We deported all the Mexicans, oh no who will work the fields for $10/hr, oh wait we have all these prisoners, problem solved, oh wait we don't have enough prisoners" needs to be getting talked about a lot more than it is.
That will only happen when they run out of children for labor. Republicans in Iowa, for instance, want to lower the fine for child labor from an already low $10k down to $2500.
Even children you have to pay. Prisoners are 100% cheaper, and also don't come with any health and safety limitations. You can just send them out in the hot sun without much water, and if they die, you have more.
I don't think it's that complex.
People recognize it isn't a crime, they still aren't so far gone to suggest criminalizing it... But they still don't like it and just want the person removed from their society. Putting them on a plane or bus out of the country and not letting them back in fits the bill.
I really really don't think people think that deported means you go to a concentration camp somewhere. If they did, there's no reason to not just criminalize the behavior. Make them do slave labor in jail in the USA for the benefit of the USA, if that's the case.
It's not like people aren't happy to suggest criminalizing ALL KINDS of behavior anyways. It's not like they're not happy to chant "lock them up!". Why not just go that route in these cases? Why even bother with deportation as word?
Deportation I think is just "banishment" in the brains of everyone who suggests it.
Private prisons in the US are already work camps. They will just become a lot more concentrated when all the immigrants have to be housed there. Not as a final solution of course. That comes later.
Mostly people died in the camps of disease and the general lack of care for human life requirements. There were some specific death camps, but there were way more work camps, about 30,000 in total.
Anne Frank wasn't gassed "on purpose," she died of typhus.
If you think those deaths weren't on purpose, you've got entirely the wrong idea.
I know. I put it in quotes for a reason.
Their deaths were still intentional even if they were not executed. The Nazis sought to exterminate the races preventing the Aryan ubermensch from being created.
Because they want to define what it means to be American. That definition conveniently includes themselves and people who think like them, and excludes Others.
Correct. You broke the code.
They are defining "American" as anyone who's on their team, and anyone not on their team as "not American," and in parallel to that they're setting up specific and powerful systems to punish people who aren't real Americans.
Callback to Sarah Palin's "Real America" garbage. It's been festering a while.
Concentration camps are the next step. Federal government already bought the land.
Marianne was born in the USA. They are going to put people in camps before they deport them. I suspect they will function as slaves for these camps.
If he's allowed to eliminate parts of the 14th Amendment, none of this really matters anymore because that means he can eliminate any part of the Constitution, which means the Constitution becomes completely worthless.