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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

More humane like Nazi-America, or more humane like Warcrimes-Russia? Description unclear, please clarify.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

To clarify, what you're doing is "what-aboutism". Asking China to be more humane is not a comment on anything but China being more humane.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago

They weren't just asking China to be more humane, though. They were suggesting that China doesn't deserve our cooperation because they are inhumane, which implies we have the moral high ground and is explicitly hypocritical. It isn't whataboutism to point out hypocrisy.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

There's a lot of assuming, implying, and suggesting in that take. The original just said if they were more humane we would work with them.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 17 hours ago

You don't at all see how that implies moral superiority? Or are you just giving them the benefit of the doubt?

The problem is holding China to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Try to read up and understand what whataboutism means. Because you clearly didn't get the point of my comment.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

You brought up other societies as compared them to us. It's the definition of what-aboutism, just read up on it again to make sure.

[-] drosophila 3 points 23 hours ago

China could stand to be more humane, but it wouldn't make the US cooperate with them.

Honestly China might start looking moderate compared to what I expect our new Dear Leader to do in the coming years.

[-] guy@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

More humane as in respecting human rights I suppose

[-] kugel7c@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Is there a state that is not disrespecting human rights ? I for one haven't heard of any.

[-] guy@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Degrees in hell maybe.

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