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Trump rolls back trans and gender-identity rights and takes aim at DEI
(www.theguardian.com)
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Don't worry. According to ~~Russians~~ ideological purists, this outcome is better for my trans son than if Kamala Harris had won.
Now if you'll pardon me, I have to get back to working on moving my family out of this shit-hole country.
Personally, if it's my rights vs being a part of a genocide I'm ready to get my passport revoked.
It's not like I had money to flee the country, and my retirement plan was already to die in the water wars.
I'm sure your ideological purity is a great comfort to my son who has just been legally declared a woman.
I got my name/gender markers updated a few years ago.
The Democrats lost the election due to a combination of their support of Israel (and corresponding economic impacts) and their terrible campaign/no primary. If you're looking for people to blame they're not on your left.
My son. He's a transman. Trump declared him legally a woman yesterday.
Oh, that's a confusing way to put it then. I don't put much stock in what the federal government 'declares', their proclamations don't mean it's reality.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. It means good luck getting a passport or any other federal documentation with your actual gender on it. It means drugs and medical treatments that are approved at the federal level for gender transition won't be available anymore. It means if you live in a state that isn't friendly to trans people, you are going to suffer.
So it means trans people are fucked. How do you not know this?!?
And it's not like the issue with Palestine is better under Trump. We had the choice between a candidate who would at least try to put pressure on Netanyahu... and one who will happily do whatever is asked of him by extreme evangelical Christians who believe Israel needs to be dominant in the Middle East so Jesus will come back.
How the fuck does anyone conclude that the Democrat is bad in comparison to that?
So you chose being part of the same genocide and additionally the future genocide of LGBT people in America. Are you fucking joking?
I voted for the non-genocidal candidate (PSL) tyvm
So you voted for Trump.
Trump won by more votes than all the third party votes combined. Third party votes had zero impact in my state too.
You voted for Trump.
You could have voted for Harris, worked hard to convince others to vote for Harris (who instead chose not to vote), and done everything else in your power to prevent Trump from coming into power. You didn't. So you voted for Trump. That's the reality of a two-party system.
No I voted for Claudia de la Cruz
Like I said: Trump.
Again, two-party system. Your implicit vote for Trump didn't count quite as much as an explicit one would, but you still put your weight behind him.
mental gymnastics
Yes, you are absolutely engaged in them, which is understandable as you don't want to shoulder the burden of understanding the role of people who voted like you (or didn't vote) in Trump's ascension.
Now you're complicit with the upcoming genocide of trans people but go ahead and enjoy that warm fuzzy feeling you have from saving Palestine from Kamala Harris.
This time around it's started with Palestinians, democrats acting helpless to stop the genocide (while actually arming it). It does not fill me with confidence that if LGBT people became a political liability that democrats wouldn't unite with the republicans on our extermination too.
Solidarity with the Palestinians or any marginalized group doesn't mean I have to allow bad things happen to everyone else.
We don't vote Democrat because they inspire us or we love them, we vote democrat as a form of overall harm reduction.
In virtue signaling your opposition to Israel's genocide, you've enabled American genocide of trans people, that's how you know you fucked up.
Except they don't know they fucked up and never will. This is right wing thinking, no matter how much these people protest the allegations.
Progressives don't get stuck on nonsense. Progressive choose progress over regression and learn from mistakes. This person does not have those qualities.
If it's your rights. Fuck me if mine gets caught up in it, since it's "for the greater good". Right tankie?
Can you share a news article reporting that the genocide has ended? I must have missed that.
I'm trans, but I'd rather kill myself than vote for genocide.
Thank you for making that decision for every trans person in the USA.
Sorry, I made the only decision I could. Every fucking day I listened to the stories and testimony coming out of Gaza. It was either vote against the genocide or do something much more drastic. I wouldn't have survived voting for genocide. I hung on because I chose to believe the Axis of Resistance could hang on and keep fighting until a ceasefire. And they did!
Instead of punching left at people who wouldn't vote for genocide, punch right at the transphobes that want to kill us. If you want to be mad at me, be mad at me. I can handle it. But you're gonna have to work with me if we're gonna get through this together.
We were trying to work together to stop the fascists but too many people like you let perfect be the enemy of the good. Now we can only hope that there will be something to save in four years.
If you actually believe we need to stop the fascists, you can't just wait four years to try again. Fuck this "we can only hope" loser talk. We can do a hell of a lot more than that! If you really believe this is a fascist takeover, start acting like it.
Look, I get it, there's more that must be done. But there's only so much an individual can do. We need to work together again and this time, stay united.
They're a tankie, mate. Not much use arguing, they're starting from a bad faith position.
It really irks me because we're so close in ideology and yet their preferred methods boggle the mind.
The ideology is close but their to logic abilities are closer to the right's, in that they are non-existent.
It's really weird to interact with people who claim to be far left but who make libertarians seem well studied.
It would be an improvement if they were actual bots since these new LLM bots have fewer hallucinations.
What does being trans have to... :sees
.ml: oh.Okay tankie.
Whatever dronie.
Well now you don't have to do it yourself 🙂
At least you didn't just stay home, you strategically held back your vote - instead focusing on how you would capitalize on their loss to seize control of the party in the resulting elections for control to effect the change which is so important to you.
...Oh
I guess you just... Gave up and surrendered... Just no strategy at all to accomplish any of your political goals...? Ceding all control to the anti-muslim party.... Interesting.
Said nobody ever.
You must have slept through the year prior to the election or been offline. This place was swamped with people who, in the name of saying Palestine was THE issue shouted continuously about 'bLuE mAgA' and how people need to stay away from the democratic party, which when people do that you get this as the alternative.
Conveniently ignoring that Trump is also worse for that whole situation.
People were saying they weren't willing to vote for the Democrats because they supported genocide. Say what you want about that, but it has nothing to do with trans people; literally everyone was perfectly aware they'd be worse off with a Trump victory.
It has to do with trans people because you don't get to pick one candidate on this topic and another on that topic. By outright rejecting the democratic candidate these same people where willing to throw every minority and marginalized group in our own country under the bus for that one ideologically pure stance.
And it isn't even actually ideologically pure, since the Republicans are 1000% worse on Israel and Palestine.
This is exactly what I don’t get about that whole pre-election anti-dem bombsrdment spam. I wonder how many of those accounts were Russian Musk troll bots.
EDIT oh there’s one right here in this thread. Sticking to their guns. And look at that tld.
Okay, and?
The statement in the parent comment
is false, because nobody said that. Simple as that. You can take issue with the anti-Democrat stance, but nobody tried to imply it'd result in a better environment for trans people.
They where declared an acceptable sacrifice for purposes of making a point about Palestine. IE: if you allow democrat policies on Palestine to continue then we are willing to let the minorities here in America burn.