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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Survivors bias. People in Russia or China don't appear to complain about their systems because... they can't.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Modern Russia is Capitalist, the Socialist system was looted and sold for parts over 30 years ago. As for the PRC, people don't complain as much as they do in the US because over 90% of the citizens of China support the CPC.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

https://redsails.org/anticommunism-and-wonderland/

In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

not an american, I grew up in the Soviet empire, don't care about your dumb walls of propaganda. Try again.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

It must be so easy being a reactionary ultra-nationalist like you: you Just assume anything that confirms your pre-existing beliefs is true and anything that challenges them is propaganda.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Westerners continue to be the most brainwashed people on earth

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do they think Russia is a communist country?

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nope, grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Fuck that, I'll take flawed capitalism over whatever torture and misery was that thanks. You are free to disagree more politely tho.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, the classic "I was born in Poland in 1989, I think I know a little bit more about communism than you, buddy!" style of reactionary westerner.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Whatever makes you feel better about your flavor of brain wash my friend. At the end of the day I'd rather have flawed democracy and capitalism than whatever else is on the table. At least there's a path forward here.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Capitalism and democracy are mutually incompatible, and the only path under capitalism is "forwards" into ever increasing inequality and poverty.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly, not going to continue with this as clearly we're not going to find any value in this comment thread so have a good day and I hope you feel better :)

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