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‘The American people did not vote for whatever the hell this is,’ warns House Democrat
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Yeah, actually, they did. Millions of Democrat voters stayed home. Every single state shifted right.
You're in the minority party. Republicans have control of all 3 branches of government, and many state governments shifted right.
Simply put, what the fuck are you going to do about it? Democrats have exactly zero power outside of sitting back and watching.
And yet they'll still somehow get blamed for everything that's coming.
No shortage of people that just stupidly (or with an agenda) blame dems for the shitty republicans. People on lemmy saying Reagan was Carter’s fault, for example.
That’s how abusers think. “Look what you made me do.” Look how you made me stay home and not vote so now we have trump.
More recent example: People on Lemmy continuing to blame the return of Trump on Biden and Harris. Harris wasn't the perfect candidate, so of course the only reasonable thing to do was stay home and let Trump return to power. I mean, Liz Cheney showed up on stage to support her that one time. What else were voters supposed to do? This was all Harris's fault, dammit!
Anything to avoid taking responsibility for their words and actions.
As an outsider, Harris is worse than "not a perfect candidate", she's a really bad one.
Biden and Harris deserve plenty of blame over Trump winning
They're just plenty more blame to go around
I don't blame Harris but I do blame Biden. Biden should never have run in 2020 and certainly not in 2024. He was a failed presidential candidate in 2008 and earlier, but he used his association with Obama to win despite being a terrible candidate. His ego almost got Trump a second term in 2020 and ended up getting us a Trump term in 2024. Trump is not a good candidate, he's not supposed to win. He only won and came close because he had the incredible good fortune of running against Hillary Clinton once and Biden twice.
Bingo. So many donvict supporters pulled this shit when donvict "won" in 2016 - "Obama and Hollywood made me do this. You deserve tRump." And yes, that is totally abuser type of talk.
It is expected that the demons on the right - like Tucker Carlson [1] - will use this kind of talk, but what is so damned infuriating is when the Enlightened Centrists (TM) and the "liberal media" say it as well.
[1] Tucker was saying that at some point, he may have to turn to fascism because of what the left Made Him Do, because "too woke" or something.
And they'll continue shifting right, blocking a meaningful progressive agenda, and promote neoliberal "nothing will fundamentally change" policy until they are completely consumed/eliminated by the fascist plutocracy.
The republicans have held the minority many times and obstructed the fuck out of our government. If Dems really care they can do a lot to prevent shit in congress.
We will see how much they actually care in the next 2 years
It's a show. The only thing established party leadership cares about on either side is lining their pockets. The longer they keep us arguing about their disfunction, the more they rob from us. One class. Working class.
It's easy to obstruct when you have any 1 of the 3 (house of reps, Senate, or presidency). They have none. The only tool they have is the filibuster and we'll see what happens there.
It's also easy to obstruct if you don't care about having a functioning government at the end of the day.
This will be gone the nanosecond it becomes inconvenient.
Jokes on the Republicans-- Democrats like to watch [their party get effed]. So republicans are giving the democratic leadership exactly what it wants. We win again.
The house can't do much, but the senate can use the same tactics Republicans did and block up everything.
Until the GOP gets rid of the filibuster. Which will happen the nanosecond Democrats use it to block Trump's agenda. And then Senate Democrats can just pull up a spot on the bench next to the House Democrats so they can sit back and watch with them.
Yep. Democrats didn't because it goes against norms, but Republicans don't have any care about norms if it gets in their way.
They do if they think it would seriously harm then later.
Getting rid of the fillibuster at the wrong time could backfire. They need to get rid of it at a time when they might never lose power again if they do it.
That time is probably now.
Ha ha not Washington