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‘The American people did not vote for whatever the hell this is,’ warns House Democrat
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But they did vote for it?
Right? Like, this is who we are, and who we are is stupid and easily manipulated.
The majority did not.
I'm still dubious about his win, especially since it's one of the thinnest margins in history.
It's a fact that bomb threats were called into Democrat majority polling places and judges refused to extend polling hours to account for it.
It's a fact that Republican states engaged in heavy voter suppression in major metropolitan areas.
And it's extremely suspicious that bullet ballot rates were orderes of magnitude higher than previous elections only in swing states.
tyranny of the minority
Do you just not understand how numbers work? Of the number of people who showed up to be counted, ie the ones invested enough to still give a fuck one way or another, more people voted for this than against it. That may not necessarily reflect the sentiments or ideology of the entire population. But if they wanted to be counted then they should have shown the fuck up. Bitch all you want about tyrants and tyranny because it’s fucking here. But stop kidding yourself that these people are still real underdogs in the grand scheme. Their ideology and dumbfuckitude is absolutely gaining ground and pretending it isn’t just adds another blind spot to be exploited.
And to go a step further, every single person who chose not to vote did so because they had no issue with Trump and the Repubs taking office. The majority did vote for this shit.
Eh I wouldn’t go so far as to say that the result of apathy is the same as actual endorsement. I just feel you have lost too much solid ground because of a lack of participation that you are simply no longer considered in the sea of opinions/needs. But semantics aside, we agree.
There was a lot of voter suppression, myself included. A lot of people wanted to vote and couldn’t.
the sentence doesn’t say some Americans voted for this
If it did, I’d agree.
The majority who didn't vote saw a cookie-cutter politician and an authoritarian man-baby and thought, "Eh, either is fine." So their "vote" went to the majority winner. There are no redos because not enough people showed up.
That is a problem, but they did not endorse this.
If someone sat at home on election day or voted for anyone but Harris they absolutely endorsed this. They should go to their graves knowing every single thing Trump and crew does is because they allowed it to happen.
I think many are too low-info to really have endorsed anything.
There's got to be a line where "low-info" becomes a choice. I don't know where that line is, but "Donald Trump is an imminent threat to democracy" is absolutely past that threshold.
I'd have to say a whole lot of people are completely checked out of any kind of civic engagement whatsoever, for probably a plethora of reasons. There are definitely some that think they can be Above It All (TM) because I Don't Want To Be Political (TM), and in my experience these people are insufferable smug jackasses about it, too.
Wait, I thought Lemmy was blaming billionaires who have a stranglehold on churches, media, and education.
I would blame both. The malfeasance from the oligarchs doesn't absolve any individual of blame for their own individual actions. Both groups are assholes in different ways.
Inaction is a choice that says I don't care about the outcome. It's an equal endorsement of facists and neolibs.
With the way our electoral system works, not voting against fascism is the same as voting for it.
It shouldn't be this way, but this is the reality of the situation.
Of course they did. When it comes to voting, silence is consent.
Does that mean those on Lemmy who told me not to vote for “both sides” consented?
Yes. The people on Lemmy encouraging people not to vote for Harris definitely consented to this.
It's functionally the same thing.
This "but he didn't get >50% popular vote" is an ineffectual cop out. It does not matter in any sense. It's grasping at straws.
But they did
77,301,997voted for Donald269,823,374did not vote for himEdit: I forgot to subtract the 77m Donald voters from my all American adult voters number. So the second number is closer to 200 million. But still more than the Donald voters.
Why are any American voters ineligible? Even if they are, they are Americans who did not vote for this. They are not represented in government.
A minority of Americans voted for this.
I may have down my math wrong, but I subtracted minors. Though there’s a case that 16-18 year olds should vote.
I do think I forgot to subtract those in favor of Donald though, now that I think of it.
If they’re not citizens, they are not Americans, right?
Felons should be voting if they’re adult citizens.
Is there an intelligence requirement for voting?
Felons are not prohibited from voting by the Constitution, though a lot of states have enacted their own bans (and the Constitution does leave managing elections to the states)
That sounds strange. Who did all the other people vote for? Why is that other person not going to be president with so many votes?
1/3 of eligible voters did not vote (for or against Donald)
So they were okay with Trump being president?
Trump did not get the majority of votes and if the house was not gerrymandered there would be no GOP majority there as well.
Yes, the majority neither voted for nor against this.
he won the popular vote this time so im not sure what you mean by not getting the majority of votes.
Because technically he got just shy of 50%, so while he got the highest vote count, he didn't win a majority
where do you get that? Everything I have seen has him over 50% of votes cast.
Go ahead and defend the system but don't say the majority voted for this, because the rules expressly allow for minority rule.
You don’t get to vote outside of your own state for senators or representatives. Voting in your state doesn’t change the fact that other states have different priorities, and sometimes it feels like they’re just completely out of touch. My state has a Democratic majority in almost every part of our government, yet we’re still stuck with a president and federal government that most people here didn’t want or vote for. It's frustrating because the system lets other states have so much power in choosing the president, even when it doesn't reflect the will of people in places like mine.
Add up the total votes from each state that voted for this and won. Exclude states that they didn't win in. It's about 10% of the total population of the U.S.
That's a crazy system you have when 90% vote against something and they still win? You should fix that.