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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by WeUnite@lemm.ee to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

CEO of Tesla and acting President-elect Musk is going on a neo-Nazi binge endorsing far right candidates instead of properly running the companies he's involved in such as Tesla.

In addition Tesla is considered one of the most unreliable car brands according to: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/

Moreover Tesla has the highest fatal accident rates of all car brands according to: https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a62919131/tesla-has-highest-fatal-accident-rate-of-all-auto-brands-study/

Also there are privacy implications with using a car that could in theory spy on you: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/massive-trove-of-tesla-files-contains-thousands-of-safety-complaints/

Now that more competent and establish brands are making EVs there's no reason to buy a Tesla if you want an EV. I'm not here to recommend another brand, I'm just here to tell you that your next EV should be anything other than a Tesla.

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago

The first point rings true, but the other points seem like cherry picking.

[-] perestroika@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A note on the "Fatal accident rate" topic:

A car which uses touch panels for control and electronics for simple things like doors, and relies only on a camera to do self-driving (no lidar), is bound to be unsafe in multiple ways. Drivers make more mistakes because they aren't provided physical switches and levers, they make mistakes because they're distracted by light from screens, in emergencies there are issues with unlocking doors and finally, when machine vision fails, there is no backup to tell of a Big Old Obstacle right ahead.

A note on the "Spying" topic:

Mozilla compared privacy policies. They didn't actually take apart cars, intercept their comms or dissect manufacturers' apps. I wish there existed a review of actual behaviours, as opposed to policies.

A car's ability to actually spy on the user depends on its tech, not just the policy. So a very simple car (not a Tesla, obviously) with a very agressive policy of "we collect everything" would be safer than a smartphone on wheels with a modest policy. You can't spy if you haven't got sensors.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

As far as your points about the fatal accidents stuff goes - maybe Tesla shouldn't call it Full Self Driving if it can't fully self-drive without killing you, and maybe their cars shouldn't go 0-60 in 2 seconds by default, if that proves too difficult for inexperienced drivers to control.

this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2024
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