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Those evil socialists are hiding their homeless in homes (lemmy.ml)

submitted 6 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] random 5 points 6 months ago

then why has china got so many homeless people?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

huh?

However, the people of China can afford to buy these extremely expensive properties. In fact, 90% of families in the country own their home, giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes

[-] Delzur@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 6 months ago

Nice, but not related. See that comment

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

maybe you should read the reply to that comment

[-] Delzur@vegantheoryclub.org 1 points 6 months ago

Don't worry I get notificatons

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

It doesn't, I have no idea where you're getting that from. China eliminated urban poverty over a decade ago (~2013), and rural poverty is nearly eliminated. Source.

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty. At China’s current national poverty line, the number of poor fell by 770 million over the same period.

Another anti-China western source because we know white supremacists wouldn't accept any Chinese source about their poverty alleviation campaigns.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If China is socialist then Lipton is tea.

Look into the country on the shallowest level. They have socialist programs but, honestly...

[-] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

China is socialist. Socialist countries can have market economies and even capitalist economies, as long as the dictatorship of the proletariat ultimately controls all of the economy. Just a reminder China's killed multiple billionaires.

[-] Delzur@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 6 months ago

What is "so many"? Compared to whom?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Not actually democratic, thus not socialist.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

seems like people who actually live in China disagree with you champ

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Most Americans think that too

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

They don't as the links I provided clearly show. Maybe actually look at the sources before replying.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's a gish gallop, and the core premise that people believing it's democratic makes it so is incorrect.

~Edit: added link~

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The very first article yogthos showed you, had a poll that showed half of usonians don't think their country is a democracy (they're right)

The US congress, its highest governing body, hasn't gotten over a 20% approval rating for many years.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

You're deliberately avoiding the core premise that people thinking it's democratic means it's democratic.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Okay then, here are some articles showing how china's people's democracy works, and why they intentionally avoid the capitalist dictatorship model common in western countries.