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Trans trules (lemmy.nz)
submitted 2 days ago by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/196

Welcome to drag's "trans trolls" meme series. Explanation: https://lemmy.nz/post/17415805/12656103

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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

I don't get what you are trying to say. But every time I had a problem with trolls messing up a certain topic, it wasn't the topic that was the problem. The problem was the trolls.

[-] will_steal_your_username 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Dragon Rider is being accused of being a fake transgender person because people don't like drags pronouns. The meme implies the so-called trolls are just polite trans people, and that the person being offended by said trans people are simply transphobic, which they are.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

It's hard to understand why anyone gets up in arms with anyone online where there are ways to block and ignore people.

That being said, personal pronouns are an awkward thing linguistically. (Maybe they won't be in the future?) He. she and they are all pronouns recognized within English and have been for a long time. The farther you stray from those, the more likely you are to annoy people who have an idea of what language is in their heads. Those people could use a change of viewpoint of what language is - specifically that language is alive and changing - but transphobia might not be their real motivation. They're wrong, but not necessarily the morally bad kind of wrong.

[-] will_steal_your_username 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People being annoyed does not justify people harassing someone. If someone thinks neopronouns are weird or annoying on the internet then just don't engage with them instead of commenting on it all the time.

Edit: I remember not liking neopronouns as a kid and I never went out of my way to bother anyone about it. Also dragon rider doesn't force anyone to use drags pronouns, drag is fine with they/them

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There have been a weird number of these increasingly convoluted posts, I think mostly in this community, where they’re like, “if _____ is ______, because ____ are _____ when ____s _____, you’re transphobic/ableist/etc.”

And it just feels like people are trying too hard to find something to deepen the problem of bigotry. The problem is already big. And it’s already kinda nuanced/vague because it involves other people and their history and intentions. That in itself already makes these issues kinda hard to pin down because they are amorphous. But these kind of posts and the others over the past few days definitely make it seem like people are just trying to find new ways to make problems more specific to their personal beliefs.

It just strikes me as a little disingenuous or odd.

[-] will_steal_your_username 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All you have to do if you don't like or understand something is move on. You didn't need to come here and invalidate someones identity.

Edit:

It just strikes me as a little disingenuous or odd.

This just screams that you are being disingenuous yourself is what I mean.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This just screams that you are being disingenuous yourself

lol…um…how? Is this like a “you smelt it you dealt it” rule or something? There has been a sudden uptick in increasingly convoluted memes being posted. And I…pointed that out. That means I’m being disingenuous how, exactly? I’m being disingenuous about…people being disingenuous? What.

[-] will_steal_your_username 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, just the way you phrased everything sounded off and weird. Like it's so very easy to not care about this issue and you show up and you cast doubt on people for no real reason, calling them disingenuous when you honestly you have no way to know. It was just such a tacked on and accusatory line.

Like yeah these memes if you can even call them that are very specific to this person, but all we have to do is not care and move on.

Imagine if drag is just a bit odd but being sincere, and they receive all these comments on every post about how drag are "fake" and a troll etc. What exactly are you contributing to then? Don't comment. Move on.

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