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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

You may need to get out more. Marx is the father of modern sociology, a debt even Max Weber acknowledged. "Marx wasn't all bad" isn't a hot take outside of anywhere that doesn't hang a tattered, non-code compliant American flag from the front porch.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's not that everyone who appreciates Marx is wrong, no no no, it's just a nearly universal belief among all of the worst examples of human beings which are unfortunately swarming all over lemmy in an attempt to radicalize people.

So avoid that shit whenever possible.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Surrendering Marx because shitheads use him as an aesthetic is like surrendering the American flag because shitheads use it as an aesthetic. All you do in doing so is lending power to your enemies for no good goddamn reason. Even less justified, really, since Marx has pretty clearly stated inclinations, while the US flag is far more abstract.

Especially silly when half of the tankies on here haven't read enough Marx to fill a thimble, and regularly and blatantly contradict him.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If this were a sociology, philosophy, history, or similar academic community then sure...

but not making Marxist memes is the easiest fucking thing you can possibly do. Are you planning to tell me I'm being unfair to chastise you because you accidentally tripped, opened your laptop, and photo-edited this meme so it's not really your fault for picking the subject matter?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

No. I'm telling you that surrendering symbols to the opposition just means that the opposition then benefits from that symbol. Fuck that. It's both cowardly and stupid. I'm not going to puss out of reposting memes with Marx just because some ML fucks think workers' democracy is for squares.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"surrendering" fuck off

There are appropriate (and inappropriate) contexts for every subject.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

“surrendering” fuck off

Don't rightly know what else you'd call giving up a prominent and powerful symbol to the opposition without so much as a fight.

There are appropriate (and inappropriate) contexts for every subject.

Yep, and that's why I feel fine posting a Marx meme in 196, where tankies aren't welcome.

[-] VerilyFemme 8 points 2 months ago

What's your point? This meme is tankie because tankies like Marx? Makes no sense. This meme even has the original political statement removed from it as the main joke and you're talking about how it's tankie?

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If I were accusing the meme of being Tankie I wouldn't post a warning at all, I would just report it.

[-] VerilyFemme 2 points 2 months ago

I mean, if the meme's not tankie then you shouldn't need to give a warning at all...

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Not even Tankies admit to being Tankies, you have to read the signs.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I would urge you to block lemmy.ml if you think they're swarming. It's pretty much only there, I blocked .ml and omg it's been so nice here now

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That would prevent me from downvoting their posts but still allow them to show up in comments all over.

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