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Oh, no! Biden! Better check my.. checks notes.. inability to give a shit about Joe Biden. Nobody gives a shit about Joe Biden, because we're not in a weird Joe Biden cult.
That’s the point. You never cared about his crimes, because Blue MAGA is just another version of the Red MAGA cult.
Was he convicted in a court of law? Were charges even brought?
That’s your measure of accountability? Whether they got away with it?
You Blue MAGAs have less self-awareness than the red ones.
Throwing shit around but not providing facts.
Your 1 month old account betrays your intention troll.
Nobody supports or likes Joe Biden. Nobody wanted to vote for Joe Biden. No one is wearing hats and waving Biden flags. That's your weird geriatric-erotic thing. But Donald Trump is objectively worse in every regard, unless you're dimwitted and openly embrace an alternative reality (as you do).
By what measure is he worse? Any specific data points?
Right now Biden is on track to help Israel eradicate the population of Gaza, has deported 2.5x as many people, set records way beyond Trump for fossil fuel extractions, is escalating wars in multiple fronts, etc.
By what measure is he worse?
I would try mentioning to you that ain't nobody taking about Biden.
Or would the fact that there is no rival cult to yours embarrass and/or confuse you too much?!?
Exactly. You don’t talk about your own sides crimes, because you don’t actually care about the crimes. It’s just partisan bullshit games.
I’m a leftist. I’m not in the Red or Blue MAGA cult.
Your weirdly adversarial comments only effectively help sow the discord between "red" and "blue".
Besides, at exactly what point did I say I picked a side? Hint: I didn't. I'm me, not some arbitrary label for a box someone wants to shove me into. I don't what care what label you pick, even "leftist", the moment you let them assign you to a box, you've lost.
You’re not a very good astroturfer. You have to pick a lane. You wanna accuse me of being divisive, or be divisive yourself and dissuade people from collaborating.
Red and blue are on the same side. They’re with the fascists. But if you look at polling and voter turnout, most people in this country don’t support either one.
Oh, just shut the fuck up.
I'm the to astroturfer, yet you keep assigning everyone their appropriate label.
And, fuck right off with the collaboration shit; running around screaming about whatever crimes, real or imaginary, ain't collaboration.
But, hey, guess what? You win! Cause I'm not replying anymore cause I'm blocking your stupid ass. Enjoy fucking right the hell off...
Read the room. People aren’t buying your pro-Dem bs anymore.
It’s not left vs right. It’s top vs bottom, and we’re finally making significant progress in convincing people of that fact.
Yaaaawn. Low quality bait.
If Biden committed crimes, I hope they arrest and try him for it and don't find stupid excuses like it's okay if a president does it.
Your turn. Let's hear about how Trump should be arrested and tried for his crimes too.
I’ll do you one better: every single living US president should stand trial at The Hague for their crimes, regardless of their party.
Yes, putting centenarian Jimmy Carter on trial would definitely achieve something or other.
Putting words in my mouth is just proving my point that you're a troll.
You didn’t just argue against holding Carter accountable for his war crimes?
No I did not. Asking me whether your lie was true is not going to make it true.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13939740
Linking to what I wrote will also not make your lie true.
Sorry, nothing will make your lie true.
But what kind of leftist tho? Still in high school or not allowed within 1000 ft of one?
I’m a leftist. Not an Israeli.
There is no Biden cult; most dems and leftists fucking hate him.
Got a source for the molestation? First I've heard of it. I remember some flimsy story from some other woman that ended up being completely unsubstantiated.
What is defending a politician committing a genocide, if not cult behavior?
https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/portrait-of-the-bidens-a-family-as-dysfunctional-as-the-kennedys-and-protected-by-the-press/
Amidst zero people defend the genocide, hence the part where I pointed out that most people hate him. Are you fucking stupid or something? Do you think that turning every conversation about literally everything into a conversation about Gaza will do absolutely anything about the situation at all?
Everybody knows it's horrific. Everybody hates it. I hate it. I can't fucking stop it, voting for, or supporting, either party wasn't going to fix it (though one side campaigned on turbo charging it, which still makes them the objectively worse choice ethically and morally), so all I can do is focus on the other things that could change and be better.
I'm so fucking tired of you morons derailing every conversation to tell us everything we already know because you're too stupid to understand that other things still exist.
UN experts report Netanyahu and the Biden admin are on track to eradicate 95% of the Gaza population. It is the most important thing happening in the world right now.
https://truthout.org/articles/un-expert-warns-israel-on-track-to-exterminate-nearly-entire-gaza-population/
If talking about it didn’t do any good, they wouldn’t be spending so much time and money trying to convince us to stop talking about it.
It's cute that you don't want anyone to remember this, but I remember it:
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240628-trump-let-israel-finish-the-job-in-gaza/
I remember it, too. What’s your point?
Again, with the current situation under Biden, UN experts project eradication of the population.
The problem is you neoliberals think words are equal to actions. Trump using harsher language doesn’t make Biden’s actions any different.
"Trump uses harsher language, therefore he won't be responsible for genocide" is a weird argument.
Work on that reading comprehension.
Insulting me doesn't change the fact that you are suggesting Trump will share in no culpability when it comes to Palestinian genocide.
If that is not what you are suggesting, you're sure doing a bad job of it.
Let's see if you will ever admit Trump might even possibly make things even worse than they have been under Biden maybe. I'm betting not.
No, I don’t think trading one fascist for another makes a difference. I don’t think choosing between Hitler or Mussolini is a meaningful choice.
And now it all makes sense. You've never even attempted to study history. Every Jew and Roma person in Europe in the 1940s would have traded Franco for Hitler or Mussolini.
A troll living in a black-and-white world who thinks genocide is just one level of badness and can't get any worse. Shameful.
It's people having a different opinion of events than you do. A cult is more like when your group thinks it's clearly, obviously, inarguably wrong not to see everything through your lens. That's a cult.
You mean like believing amnesty international, the UN, Doctors Without Borders, and the ICC are wrong about genocide? That kind of “different opinion?”
No I mean realizing the world isn't a meme. For example not everybody would think buying a box of screws from Home Depot is genocide because the CEO is pro-Israel.
Sending bombs to arm a genocide, in violation of both international & domestic laws, is in fact committing genocide.
Actually "in fact" and "one way to look at it" are different, and I'm done with this so go ahead and have the last word and award yourself internet moral victory points.
Is it weird seeing yourself in this situation, and finding out you would have supported the Holocaust? What’s it feel like to discover that part of yourself?