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[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Won't homeless people just sleep on the ground now?

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago

You seem to assume that any logic or reason was used in the decision making that led to this action. But I assure you, as soon as racism, classism, or any other form of bigotry enters the process, any reason left jumps out of the window.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 33 points 2 months ago

Not if we can get some proper sidewalk spikes.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

The bare ground is way colder than a bench, since air is a good thermal insulator.

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Homeless people are desperate. They'll sleep outside on the fucking pavement if it has an overhang and nobody bothers them. A place with walls and heating is fucking precious to em.

[-] AscendantSquid@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Is that how that works? I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, I just heard the opposite is true when it comes to why bridges develop ice sooner than typical roadways do; because the ground holds more heat than the cold air does

[-] felbane@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The reason bridges form ice before roads is that they are exposed to cold air on all sides and have lower total thermal mass, so conduction from the bridge to the air allows the temperature of the bridge surface to drop faster. The ground has nearly infinite thermal mass, and it takes a long(er) time for ambient air temperature to affect the surface temperature.

When you say "the ground holds more heat" you're talking about that thermal mass. The temperature of the air is colder than the temperature of the ground, so yes from that perspective it "holds more heat." But the temperature of a human is much much higher than the ground, and conduction is an extremely effective way to pull heat out of a human.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yep! Slept on benches, chairs, and the ground when I was homeless. The ground is the worst for temperature (I'm technically homeless again, but at a shelter in a bed).

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I hope things turn around for you soon.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

It's essentially the same thing, just on opposite ends. the ground leeches heat from warm bodies because it's big and cool. A bridge freezes first because there isn't ground that also has to freeze. Both are insulated from the ground, but one is hotter and one is colder than the ground temperature.

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