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Hey, what if there was a request off. Your other employee gets in a car wreck. You going to make them come in from the hospital since it wasn't requested off? This situation actually happened to a co-worker. The GM didn't ask if they were ok, they asked if they could still make it to cover their own lunch.
Shit happens. You deal with it, not retaliate.
PTO != LOA
PTO is like if you got a cold and needed a day or two, LOA is like if a major fucking event/sickness took over and could potentially ruin your life and you have to be out of work for weeks/months/years. With LOA you still get paid, though you may get slightly less than your normal paycheck. Still a paycheck though, and after saving gas from driving in, or saving money from the train/bus/subway, or savings costs of electricity from powering on your PC/heater/AC or whatever else in order to work from home, it almost balances out.
Also, in at least where I'm from, retaliation is illegal and businesses get sued out the ass for it.
Source: Work in the US, have used LOA and PTO, and have seen businesses go down for violating these laws.
No, if you have a cold that should be sick leave, what stupid system do you have in the US?
PTO is the same as sick leave. Vacation is separate from PTO.
Wish it was like that everywhere. Quite a few businesses treat vacation the same as PTO. The outlier being holidays which sometimes is just the 1 day of the holiday and not enough for a vacation.
Yeah, but sick leave should not be limited, and it should not be requested from an employer, the employer should be notified. As I understand, PTO does not work that way.
Regarding the amounts of PTO, it depends on the company. Some companies don't offer it, so if you get sick and can't go to work then you can stay home and get better but you don't get paid. Those jobs suck and from what I've seen those jobs have high turnover due to people going to other companies for better benefits, like getting PTO. Most companies offer it, but in limited amounts. I personally get 5 days a year of paid time off, not including vacation time/LOA/Floating holidays, but I've utilized 11 days this year, I just didn't get paid for 6 of them. I think there are some companies that offer unlimited PTO, but I would guess those are only for experts in their fields and stuff.
PTO isn't requested, it's notified, as you described. If I get sick, I don't ask my employer if I can take the day off, I tell them I'm not feeling well and I'll be staying home and utilizing PTO. That's how it's worked for me at multiple different jobs.
Imo it’s a given that if someone is in the hospital and asked for some PTO I would grant it without question.
All I’m saying is based on the initial scenario there isn’t enough information to say the boss is wrong to fire the person.
Oh they didn't ask for pto, they were covering for the person who asked for pto.
I'm just saying EVERY business needs to plan for an employee being out. If that's hiring a part timer so be it, if that's a manager covering a shift so be it, if it's the owner of the company working a register, so be it. Owning/running a business means planning for the unexpected.