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When does cooking stop counting as a basic day to day survival thing and start counting as a hobby?
when you worry about “plating”
I placed the thing in a plate. It's plated now.
But yeah, I get your point.
The difference between "cooking" and "hobby cooking" :
When you worry about the brand of the olive oil you use and the cost, (over $100 per knife), of your kitchen knives. And your stove is a $4000 induction model with 2 ovens.
Source: My one Son-in-law. But the son-of-a-bitch CAN really cook!
Jokes on you, my knife cost me $40 in steel, wood, brass, and sanding belts because I make my OWN knives for my cooking.
You know, I think I might just have two hobbies and one saved me money on the other....
What about the cost of the grinder, HT furnace, drill and drill bits, and anvil and hammers? Are you really sure you saved any money? /jk
Keep banging them out!
Rule number 1: never talk about the cost of tools.
I have two Kitchenaid mixers, and all my specialty tools. Cooking and baking can definitely be a hobby. We have the meals to survive. Then we have the shit I make that tskes a list of ingredients a mile long and all day to accomplish. But goddamm they are some great food.
That brings up an interesting thought.
Am I a cooking enthusiast because I spend time hunting/fishing/foraging wild ingredients? Many of my neighbors do some foraging and hunt and fish also. (I live on a lake in the middle of a very large forest). Or does the fact I made 10lbs of home smoked Canadian bacon in my own smoker this fall make me a cooking enthusiast? Maybe the breads I sometimes bake? Or the hand harvested and then parched over a wood fire wild rice I traded some of my bacon for from my one neighbor?
Am I a cooking hobbyist? Or am I just cooking to survive? Where is the line drawn?
Not sure depends. If you didn't do any of that would you still survive?
Would I survive? Perhaps not so well. Everything I forage or hunt and fish for reduces the amount of dollars spent on buying groceries. And a good portion of what we eat you can't buy in a store.
The second part of that comment sounds like you are a culinary enthusiast not a survivalist. Like, I grow stuff in the garden to get better, fresher foods and varieties I don't see in the store, and also for the local bees Saving money is secondary(tertiary?), though I think at this point the lines may have crossed and we are saving some money. I do it because I like good food.
If I lived where there was more to forage, you can bet your ass I would be foraging too. Wild food is awesome.
It's probable, I do like to cook and do it well. Though I don't own a single kitchen knife that costs over $10US. But, that foraging really makes a large difference in the grocery bill also. Particularly when the grocery store is a mere 100 mile round trip away.
I tend to think I'm somewhere in the middle of surviving and hobbyist. I grew up poor and I'm often just doing the same things I have always done since childhood because we needed to. And I continue to do a lot of it simply because of habit and I do enjoy eating everything I forage.
Why would you need 2 mixers? That's an honest question, I'm really curious.
One got the second on sale, and when baking cakes easier and faster with 2. But also last time I baked a cake and was making cookies. Having 2 mixers was awesome for that.
When you start to have to worry about them finding out you've out-pizzad the hut.
Yeah I burn the kids out of pizza and calzone for awhile when I got into pizza making. I had to try many different ways to make it so we ate it everyday for a week.
There are a surprising amount of old kids that can't even boil water for pasta. No one looking to date wants to date an old kid they need to take care of. (Some people do, but burnout is real)
In my experience most adults can boil pasta.
... And boil it.... And boil it..... And DEAR GOD TAKE IT OFF THE STOVE AND DRAIN IT BEFORE IT BECOMES MUSH!
Cooking qs a Hobby is not throwing together a Quick meal, but actually making an effort to cook. I.e. trying new things, cooking homemade pizza or even a roast.
"throwing together a quick meal" should have it's own word.
"cooking" to me implies you're working on something worth the time it takes, something you want to put effort into.
But when I just got home, nothing is easy to make and I have to throw something quick together, it doesn't feel like really cooking to me. Like im half assing it, it should have a half-assed name.
My kids love these meals and I'm not sure why. I usually say "watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat!" and throw something together. Unless it's a stir fry, they don't like that. But a leftover baked potato becoming home fries with eggs and the half a tomato and half an onion from the fridge? The leftover cabbage going into the last handful of lentils for a stew? Casserole of leftover pasta, odds and ends with cheese, topped with bread crumbs? They are so happy with these oddball meals for some reason, and I think if you can make something with whatever you have, that IS a valuable cooking skill.
Exactly, I am always looking for new and exciting things to try. Also subscribe to shit ton of cooking channels on YouTube, and blogs. Also subscribe to a magazine subscription which I was exited that I could still do that. Also have a ton of cook books and always looking for more.
When you are making everything from scratch, cooking becomes a hobby. You can make tacos and buy a salsa from the store and make some good tacos, but when you are making the salsa and thinking that you should add just a bit more of something, you are in hobby territory.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
Making pizza from scratch is a hobby. You make may make dozens of pizzas to just get the sauce, dough, or crust right.
Following a recipe to make something is not a hobby unless it is just a starting point in something you wish to refine and make your own.
I agree with all but the last part.
Following a recipe can absolutely be a hobby. You can take a lot of enjoyment out of it, and it's even useful.
I wouldn't say it's an art, but it's definitely a hobby.
3am?!? What tiny little brisket are you doing at 225 to start that late? You've got to leave time for it to rest.
Ok, in all seriousness this is one of my main hobbies. By that I mean I do it often and I've stuck with it for years while other hobbies have come and gone. I've got a couple of offset smokers, a drum smoker that I built, and a pellet smoker when I don't have the time to tend the firebox but still want to smoke something.
I said all that to say this: there are plenty of people who couldn't give two shits about smoking meats who absolutely come ask me questions about it. Not because I'm the best, and not because they want it to be their hobby. But because I'm excited to talk about it. I also tend to bring full plates with me for my friends (and usually a couple of extras) so they get the benefit of having food.
I've also had women ask if they can come hang out next time I crank up the smoker. It's an easy way in for someone who wouldn't normally be confident enough to approach you.
You're always following some form of a recipe unless you're blindly experimenting
When you stop using boxed pasta.
Dried pasta is far superior to fresh pasta for most dishes.
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Dried pasta ----- homemade pasta ---- Dried pasta
Fresh pasta basically only if you're wanting to stuff pasta or make some shape you can't buy
I bought pasta maker but haven't used it yet. But I am ready to make my own Ramen.
Can say personally when I made a Pinterest account to save recipes lol