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Chronic Illness
A community/support group for chronically ill people. While anyone is welcome, our number one priority is keeping this a safe space for chronically ill people.
This is a support group, not a place for healthy people to share their opinions on disability.
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Be excellent to each other
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Absolutely no ableism. This includes harmful stereotypes: lazy/freeloaders etc
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No psychosomatising psychosomatisation is a tool used by insurance companies and governments to blame physical illnesses on mental problems, and thereby saving money by not paying benefits. There is no concrete proof psychosomatic or functional disease exists with the vast majority of historical diagnoses turning out to be biomedical illnesses medicine has not discovered yet. Psychosomatics is rooted in misogyny, and consisted up until very recently of blaming women’s health complaints on “hysteria”.
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No, I do not know that. Please explain
Assume far more money is being spend on fire prevention, than what's currently lost in fire. Then that's not an argument pro, nor contra, fire prevention.
Nah thanks, not about to be sealioned by a 19d old account, don't have enough spoons for that.
I know the reference for sealioning, but could you help me understand the "enough spoons" part? (I agree with you by the way, just don't understand your whole comment)
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/
Ah, thanks for enlightening me.
I’m opposed to basically anything in your comment, but thanks for the spoon story.
For anyone reading this thinking that this may sound like a good rebuttal: it's a false equivalence.
Fire prevention is a worthwhile expenditure, because things being on fire when they shouldn't is generally very bad. The cost of fire prevention is worth it, especially when lives are at stake.
Benefit cheat-catching is (or at least should be) purely about net savings. What happens though is the costs outweigh the savings making them pointless, as well as hurting those in who accidently get caught in the net too.
Don't fall for specious arguments, folks! A pithy rebutally might sound convincing at first, but don't be afraid to think deeper about it. And don't be afraid to ignore the commenter if you believe they're arguing in bad faith.