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[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, Biden isn't perfect and didn't always do the best he could, including on Israel. Did I ever say he was a great president? No. But he's a far, far, far better president than Trump was, and Harris would be a far, far better president than Trump would be, especially on the issue of Gaza.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Well, it took 20 comments of you deflecting with ad hominem and baseless accusations, but you finally answered the question ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

I swear, you waste so much time with this pointless, unproductive bullshit that it's impossible to discuss anything with you.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It isn't the win you seem to think. Few people who support Kamala for president think that she has a hope of creating world peace of that America will become even slightly socialist, but it'd get a tiny bit less shit with her and a shed load more shit with Trump, and those are the only two people who could possibly become the next president.

So if you care even a little bit about the people of Gaza, you should vote for Harris.

It's just that when you keep repeating republican talking points, I like to provide a bit of balance.

By the way, I'm not forcing you to engage with me.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I haven't said any "Republican talking points," unless in their double-talk on the issue they happened to land on something similar to what I said. If so, I'm unaware of it, and they obviously don't mean it since they contradict themselves all the time. At that point, virtually any statement about anything could be called a "Republican talking point."

I of course will not be voting for Harris since genocide is a red line and unlike Biden, when I draw a red line I actually mean it. And I do not subscribe to the ideology of lesser-evilism, so I do not feel compelled at all to pick between two candidates who are both completely awful and unacceptable.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lol. You claim to not have said any republican talking points, then right after that you spend a paragraph on the biggest one for leftwing contexts!

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really? Do Republicans talk about rejecting the ideology of lesser-evilism? Pretty sure they rely on it the same way the Demorcrats do to make people fall in line with their shitty candidate. I don't see why they'd want to undercut their support and lose every hesitant Trump voter. Pretty sure you've just decided that any and all criticism that can ever be applied to Biden or Harris is a "Republican talking point" but that doesn't make it at all true.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Which part of "convince left wing voters not to vote for Kamala Harris" do you think isn't an absolutely key Republican strategy?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So we're back to this idea that there is fundamentally no way for me to hold my position or defend it without you calling it bad faith and accusing me of being a secret Republican, regardless of anything I say or don't say. Any disagreement, any criticism of Harris or Biden whatsoever, is a "Republican talking point," and I'm expected to craft this completely delusional worldview where I ignore all their faults rather than acknowledging reality.

Completely ridiculous.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Lol no, it's not that you said a tiny thing criticism of Harris, it's the pages and pages over days and days and weeks and weeks of criticism of Harris and occasional mild acceptance that Trump isn't perfect, always without detail or ire, and only where pushed, that's the Republican suppress-the-left-wing-vote talking points.

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