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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 115 points 17 hours ago

I'm a lifelong fan of political dramas. I watched the BBC version of House of Cards and adored The Manchurian Candidate.

There's stuff going on in this election that makes everything I ever read seem placid and tame.

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 108 points 17 hours ago

Republicans would vote for the corpse of Trump before even considering not making a terrible decision. I cannot believe that this election is this close. It’s mind boggling that the outcome is currently a toss up between Nazi spray tan confused grandpa and middle road politician.

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 8 points 17 hours ago

There is no middle road politician running. Harris by all accounts is firmly right wing.

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 63 points 16 hours ago

Bruh I know the Overton window in the US is megafucked but she's literally one of our most liberal politicians by voting record, she is not "firmly right wing" by any reasonable standard

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

She's in favor of a fascist border policy against asylum seekers, a firm supporter of the fascist Zionist entity known as Israel, and wants to appoint members of the fascist party to her cabinet if she wins. She's been endorsed by architects of the Iraq war and the US torture program.

California's top cop is right-wing.

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 39 points 16 hours ago

Don't mistake me for a Kamala Harris apologist- she is absolutely a huge centrist in her presidential campaign. I am tired of this false equivalency with the total fascist ilk she's running against. It's not useful and it's dishonest.

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

She is not a centrist, Bill Clinton was a centrist. With what she's proposing, her actions, and the endorsements she's fought for, she's on par with Trump. She may not say the quiet parts out loud like trump, but her actions speak louder than the words she's not saying.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

Fascist collaborators are not centrists.

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 4 points 12 hours ago

I hate to be pedantic but that's almost exactly the definition of a centrist, someone who collaborates with both sides (even if one of those sides is fascist, genocidal, racist, etc.). And again, I don't disagree, it's a bad thing to be for exactly that reason. But it's also a different thing than being explicitly a right wing authoritarian fascist like Trump is.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

A centrist collaborates with the right and left (mostly the right), but fascists are to the right of the right. They're far right, which is a distinct grouping from ordinary right-wing ideology. Fascist collaboration requires becoming right-wing, just to meet them halfway.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

She's been endorsed by architects of the Iraq war and the US torture program.

Because your daddy is worse in their eyes.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

If you find yourself agreeing with Dick Cheney on politics you might want to rethink your positions.

He doesn't like Trump because he's a destabilizing element. He agitates the masses against him and does stupid shit for no reason that makes allies and adversarie alike stop trusting the US. He's bad for business.

Harris will be good for the empire. That's it.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If Dick Cheney told you he thought wearing a seatbelt was a good idea, you'd argue against him because clearly an idea is bad if a bad person has it.

Evaluate an argument on its merits, regardless of who endorses it.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

While true, that commenter is a very well known bad actor and provocateur. I recommend against engaging.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Obviously he's not, like, a chaos demon. He presumably eats human food and all that.

But he's a monster and should be in prison, not giving endorsements. This is like being endorsed by Anders Brevik or some shit.

She should have rejected the endorsement. Instead she's embracing him. It's disgusting.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

What if you find yourself agreeing with Repubs that you should vote for third parties over a Dem? Or is that different because saying so doesn't support the pro-MAGA campaigning you are here for?

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

This is really weird. You're happy for Trump to be elected because Cheney is so bad?!?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

~~I will never be happy.~~

No that's not true. I'll be happy when the so-called state of Israel is defeated and pays for it's crimes.

And it will.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Not if Trump is elected, it won't!

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Their new slogan has that prominently on display, Country Over Party

*COP

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago

If by right wing you mean not strictly anti-capitalist, sure, at the end of the day shes not going to ovsrthrow capitalism. Still the policies and protections she wants to enact is the furthest left we've gone in multiple lifetimes. The last time we've had any kind of policy proposal like hers was likely FDR.

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

FDR proposals, which directly came from a socialist, actually helped the working class. Our wages suck, our labor conditions sucks, our future prospects sucks, and we keep getting told everything is fine. She and democrats are not progressive in action, only in lip service.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 23 points 16 hours ago

Do those accounts include the one where she just called for legalizing pot?

Or is that a Right position in your mind?

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

You mean like Biden did 4 years ago? That's a carrot to lead you to the ballot that they have no intention of implementing

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 14 hours ago

I'd rather have Harris calling for pot to be legal and lying then have Trump saying he'll be a dictator and telling the truth.

[-] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

She's distracting with stuff like pot so we don't focus on weapons being provided by her and Biden that are burning people alive.

[-] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You mean like the reclassification into schedule III?

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