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[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 1 month ago

This is the third update in like six months that is horribly broken. There was a windows 10 update that wouldn’t install because the recovery partition that Microsoft’s installer created was too small. The prior win 11 update just won’t install for lots of people and there’s no real rhyme or reason. Now this crap.

They just don’t give a shit anymore. Microsoft had a great run folks, time to move on.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I’m honestly waiting for a crowdstrike level BSOD from one of their updates at some point. At that level, corporations would recover in the same way they did from crowdstrike, but consumers who didn’t understand how to roll back, or restore from backup, restore windows, etc would be livid and hopefully it would create some awareness on better understanding and control of the products you buy and use

[-] Toes@ani.social 26 points 1 month ago

Microsoft has largely mitigated this concern by pushing all their fresh updates to the consumers for testing before pushing them to their sensitive business customers.

[-] reinei@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Except most of those people who don't know enough to recover most likely also use the default "all your data are belong to OneDrive" and thus won't lose absolutely everything and no one group of livid people will both be livid enough and big enough at the same time for a lot to change...

[-] Toes@ani.social 32 points 1 month ago

They also released an update that broke dual boot Linux installations. Still feeling that one

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

Oh right! Forgot about that one! FOUR major screw ups.

[-] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 month ago

i think that one is not a screw up...

[-] drosophila 7 points 1 month ago

They've done that periodically for years.

I don't dual boot anymore but when I did I kept each installation on a separate hard drive for that reason.

[-] Toes@ani.social 2 points 1 month ago

I kept each installation on a separate hard drive for that reason.

In this case it didn't matter how it's installed

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

If windows is on a separate drive it's hard for it to actually ruin the Linux install. The fix was to use a USB boot drive to launch Linux and fix the boot manager.

[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Part of my job is keeping all of the endpoints my work manages up to date with patch compliance. I've had to create exceptions for the past two windows 11 updates because they won't run on most machines for no reason. It's been a pain in the ass. I can't just add the machines to the exception list without doing basic troubleshooting because "procedure" and I've spent so much time doing absolutely unnecessary shit.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 27 points 1 month ago

Remember the dozens of times a Windows 10 update could potentially wipe your personal data?

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Your files are EXACTLY WHERE YOU LEFT THEM

[-] match@pawb.social 14 points 1 month ago

That's not even counting the ones that make your user experience worse on purpose

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

I'd say they started the misstepping after they "fixed" Vista with windows 7. After that, they tried to hard instead of slow rolling. Windows 10 was good but 11 is just....windows 8 again.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Windows has always had broken versions. The old advice was to always skip every other version.

NT, Millennium, Vista, 8... 10... 11... More misses than hits really. And the bad updates are turning hits into misses.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That list mixes NT kernel OS's with Win95 OS's to support a bad hypothesis.

The NT line is:

NT 3.1, NT 3.51, NT 4, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Vista, 7,8, 10.

NT 4, 2000, and XP were all great. Vista was good on good hardware. 7 was good. 8 was bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

If you take the 95 path it's 95 good, 98 good, Me bad.

The only pattern is 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Anyone who says NT was ever bad is out of their mind. That was the thing that saved Windows since 95’s kernel wasn’t modern. Anything that crashed took the entire system down. Yeah, that was fun times kiddos.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Well 11 is NT as was 8. Although it's only problem was the UI.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Anything past 98 was/is NT. My point is NT’s kernel is actually quite good, it’s the rest that people complain about.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Me came after 98 and wasn't NT. There was also 98 SE.

But I agree with you.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don’t count ME, that was basically 98SE as a hot garbage patch. I’ll concede on 98SE, that was the best of that kernel and I do have found memories of it in the good old Unreal (not engine) days.

Also realize that I HATE Windows. Too much legacy that no one allows them to dump and then complains that it’s got a bad UI. Personally, my favorite is 11. I’m a macOS/*nix lover but I’m forced to use 11 at work. I appreciate Microsoft unifying the UI into something that doesn’t look and work like a decade old system. But then it still has problems like system search being abysmal, the registry still getting clogged with garbage, wake from sleep being 10 seconds or more long (even on high end equipment). It’s just, ancient at this point. There’s no good reason our personal devices give a much better experience these days.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If Me is a 98 patch then 8 is a patch too.

11 is bad primarily because of privacy. There are also problems like Control Panel and Settings are still separate with overlapping controls. You never know where to look. It's been 12 years of confusion.

There are also minor annoyances like the start bar can't be moved to the sides. They coded that into Windows 95 in a few months decades ago but can't add it after 3 years now.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yea I still follow that advice.

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