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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Allonzee@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

Did I say mandatory? I meant optional! You're "free" to die in a cardboard box under a freeway as a market capitalist scarecrow warning to the other ants so they keep showing up to make us more!

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[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mhm. There's two very good reason unrealized gains aren't taxed: volatility and cash flow. Are you and the government expected to swap cash back and forth everyday to correct for changes in the market? No that's silly. Should people go into debt because they don't have the cash to pay the taxes of a baseball card they happen to own that is suddenly worth millions? Also silly.

For that same reason, using unrealized gains as security is dangerous, just like the subprime loans market was!

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

There's a very good reason they should be taxed; half a dozen people are richer than god, and basically never pay any real amount of tax.

[-] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

if you secure debt against them, they should be taxed?

[-] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah owning a baseball card worth money sure whatever, if you pawn that card sorry, pay taxes. You use that card a to secure a loan with lower interest rates than you'd get without then sorry, you are realizing gains whether or not you want to admit it. This goes along one of the lawsuits against Trump. He lied to get favorable interest rates by overvaluing his assets to get better interest rates. If that's against the law why the fuck is that not counted as a "gain" to use assets to secure favorable interest rates?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

We're talking about the stock market. And it would be quarterly or annual. Please stop exaggerating.

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

There's a precise moment in time you take a loan. Use that moment in time to calculate worth; tax.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure, but this shouldn’t apply to everybody. Unrealized gains up to $10 million don’t get taxed. Unrealized gains over that amount get taxed.

If you pay it yearly you’re not paying this every day. People with this much money almost always go up in unrealized gains every year, so it’s not going to be a back and forth. It’ll be a yearly adjustment. No different than literally everybody else that pays taxes on their new wealth every year.

Edit: as for the baseball card example, if you’ve got over $10 million in unrealized gains on baseball cards, yeah, maybe you pay taxes on that.

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