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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago

The debate was being held in Pennsylvania which is a fracking state. She knew she couldn't repeat the same mistake Clinton made on coal and she didn't.

https://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/476485650/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-coal-jobs

That one poorly thought out statement cost Clinton Pennsylvania and the election.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

That was such a face slap of sound bite propaganda. From your linked article

Clinton did tell a town hall audience in Columbus, Ohio in March that "we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business." But that was part of a longer answer about the need to help blue-collar workers adjust. "We're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people," Clinton said. "Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories. Now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on."

The $30 billion plan she released last fall calls for of increased job training, small-business development, and infrastructure investment, especially in Appalachia. The plan also seeks to safeguard miners' healthcare and pensions.

But years later all I ever hear brought up is that one closing sentence.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

But years later all I ever hear brought up is that one closing sentence.

Because that closing sentence ended her political career.

You can't ever tell voters you're going to put them out of work. Ever.

You tell coal miners "I want you to have better, safer jobs that don't involve risking your lives underground for business owners who don't care about you just so your children and grandchildren can survive and thrive."

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

Pretending sound bites aren’t a thing doesn’t make them not a thing. Politicians need to word things carefully. It’s kinda part of the job.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

This ^
Even if journalists report properly on something like this, your adversaries will take the soundbite and use it out of context against you.

TL;DR: don’t hand the enemy ammunition

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Why can't more politicians tap into the wage slave idea. It's all of us against the rich. While Kamala is certainly part of "the rich" she certainly can talk a good game.

Hell it's basically the southern strategy just a slight pivot.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I know. But she only said it to that small group at the town hall, and only that one sound clip got blasted out without the rest of it. If it had been reported on honestly it wouldn't have been as damaging.

[-] Wirlocke 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

While watching the debate it was funny watching Trump say she'll end fracking like that's a bad thing (though even with green energy, I do admit we'd still need it for plastic).

I joked "next he'll attack her by saying she'll drive up green energy" then he literally did. Said she'd return to windmills and dare to use desert land for solar panels, oh the humanity xD.

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