279
The US finally takes aim at truck bloat
(www.theverge.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
279 points (100.0% liked)
Fuck Cars
9375 readers
477 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
And you need two vehicles if you work and have a family? That's insane.
Well... Back when a truck wasnt $60+k... Yes thats exactly what people did. They had a truck that guzzled gas and provided the bed space or towing capacity they needed for work, and a daily driver for other things.
From the last time I saw this 'debate'... ~30% of truck owners use the bed once a year or less, ~75% of owners tow once a year or less, and ~70% go offroad once a year or less.
Now, obviously there are applications where a truck is needed. That can't be denied... But there are so many applications here that use massive fucking trucks where another country would use a sprinter van or similar vehicle for the exact same application.
Pickup trucks? Not sure why that couldn't be denied, as the rest of the world don't really use them and if they do they're a quarter of the size
It's a rhetorical device :) I'm more than happy to agree that no-one really needs anything much larger than a kei truck.
Fair enough!
You are probably referring a 2013 phone survey of 1200 individuals which purposely split the difference between using the bed and towing making them mutually exclusive. When you didn't treat them mutually exclusive showed something like 60% of owners used it or lent it out for use at least a few times a year. Or a 2018 report by a trade group axios which didn't release data, methodology, or anything. It was released to auto trade folks but because of copyright none of the data was released. Just regurgitated media referencing each other.
If you would like to actually link a peer reviewed study on truck use with public data I'm happy to reconsider my position. But I don't believe that data exists. But again, my position is completely open if something has changed there.
1/2 ton v8 trucks start at 35, 42 nicely configured. Not everyone is buying lariats.
Unless your truck has an 8-foot bed for work, which would actually be longer than the front portion seating a family and therefore useful, it’s a silly waste of money. The point of a truck is hauling things, not people.
Oh I guess workers don't tow with them either. It's insane how you folks invent these artificial restrictions and rules.
You would rather create extra waste than admit folks use them as both in some weird pyrrhic political win.
Fifth wheels do have a place. If you've never heard of them, then you should probably back off on strong opinions here.
If you're required to have a truck to work you should probably be using one owned by your employer or written off as a business expense if you're self-employed.
Well I'm happy you live in a reality where that's the case. Then ignore that folks do work outside their employment.
If you've got a two-income household and the worksites are in opposite directions, its pretty normal.
Why? Just get a trailer.
Does a trailer tow for me? Cool enough, that might actually be true soon. They have some fancy ev trailer boosters coming out and being developed.
But why would it have to? You already need a car to transport your family, just use that?
You realize most cars, if they are rated for towing can only tow 1500lbs right? Even full size SUVs typically do 5500. I regularly tow about 9000lbs.