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[-] z00s@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The problem is not the LLMs, but what people are trying to do with them.

They are currently spoons, but people are desperately wishing they were katanas.

They work really well for soup, but they can't cut steak. But they're being hyped as super ninja steak knives, and people are getting pissed when they can't cut steak.

If you give them watery, soupy tasks they can do successfully, they can lighten your workload, as long as you're aware of what they are and aren't good at.

What people want LLMs to be able to do, ie. "Steak" tasks:

  • write complex documents

  • apply complex knowledge/rules to a situation

  • Write complex code and create entire programs based on vague description

What LLMs can currently do ie. "Soup" tasks:

  • check this document and fix all spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors

  • summarise this paragraph as dot points

  • write a python program that sorts my photographs into folders based on the year they were taken

Half of Lemmy is hyping katanas, the other half is yelling "Why won't my spoon cut this steak?!! AI is so dumb!!!"

Update: wow, the pure vitriol pouring out of the replies is just stunning. Seems there are a lot of you out there who have, in one way or another, tied your ego very strongly to either the success or failure of AI.

Take a step back, friends, and go outside for a while.

[-] V0ldek@awful.systems 18 points 2 months ago

What LLMs can currently do summarise this paragraph as dot points

The entire point here is that they can't?

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Clearly this post is about LLMs not succeeding at this task, but anecdotally I've seen it work OK and also fail. Just like humans, which is the benchmark but they are faster.

[-] self@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

humans are clearly faster at generating utterly banal shit, as proven by your posts in this thread

[-] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 months ago

they don’t do any of that soup shit reliably either and reading the article might have told you that

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They absolutely do, and I have no idea why you're so angry

[-] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

hahaha ok fuck off now

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago

I'd offer congratulations on obfuscating a bad claim with a poor analogy, but you didn't even do that very well.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

more of a Trabant analogy than a Corvette analogy

[-] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

Why did this immediately give me a flashback to Donald Trump yelling, "when it comes to great steaks, I've just raised the stakes!"

[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

"spoons and katanas" has got to be the most baby brained analogy. are you a child

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Who cares? It paints the correct picture and adds useful context.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

you do realize steaks arriving purple or green are bad things, right

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

it is stupid and wrong, and i pity your inability to understand that fact

[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

it doesn't do either of those things

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Thanks Donald, good luck in November

[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago

I get that this is some sort of attempt at an election related Epic Comeback, but it doesn't make sense

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

good god this entire post is the most tortured believer whataboutism I've encountered this month and there's extremely strong competition here

are currently spoons, but people are desperately wishing they were katanas

ie. “Steak” tasks

you should make a youtube channel, The Katana Steak-Eater. I'd watch the shit out of that at least one saturday afternoon

[-] FredFig@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Food analogy

This level of discourse wouldn't fly on 4chan, how is it so popular with LLM fans?

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

needs to be a car analogy

  • What people want LLMs to do, i.e. Corvette tasks
  • What LLMs actually do, i.e. Trabant tasks
[-] self@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago

What LLMs actually do, i.e. Trabant tasks

more of a Power Wheels Barbie Jeep whose battery got left out in the sun too long, but I’ll allow it

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago

don't diss the course, this steak's great

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

Actually, LLMs are syringes filled with brain-parasite-infested poop

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