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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 104 points 3 months ago

I'm sure this person was joking, but this kind of thing really is one of the most infuriating parts of getting older... I'm having flashbacks to a conversation I had with someone who thought that Johnny Cash wrote the song Hurt and that Nine Inch Nails were a relatively unknown band who had covered it

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The aspect of this that really bugs me is that people never get how revolutionary something was. Like taking your example of music, people listen to songs by The Beatles or Nirvana or David Bowie and think "Their fine, but I don't know what's so great about them - 100 other bands sound the same." But the thing is, at the time, no other bands sounded the same, they were just copied like crazy.

You see it with movies, too. Gone With The Wind, Citizen Kane, Double Indemnity, Blade Runner - all really good movies in their own right, but putting them in the context of the movies of the time shows how influential they were. All highly copied afterwards.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

It's called "shifting baselines."

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

Johnny Cash would have been a nobody if it wasn't for Trent Reznor! (/j)

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've heard there's a trope called "Seinfeld's not funny." It's named after the idea that a lot of people who watch Seinfeld today think its jokes are overdone or cliche, not realizing that the reason they're overdone now is because they were popularized by the show.

More generally, it refers to works that are seen as cliche nowadays by people who didn't grow up with them, but were actually the ones to start the trend in the first place, when it was new and innovative.

[-] WillFord27@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

This is the third time I've seen exactly this referenced on Lemmy. Is this becoming a thing? I feel like this is becoming a thing.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

He killed it in his version, though.

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