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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz embodies everything liberal women see in their own fathers – except for their political views. For some, it makes them hopeful but also very sad.

He’s got jokes, enthusiasm and a smiley face that’s not even remotely trying to hide how he’s feeling. He’s Tim Walz- and he’s bringing major Midwestern dad energy to the Democratic ticket.

At least that’s how many white women feel when they see Walz in videos, riding the Slingshot at the state fair with his daughter, signing legislation to give kids in Minnesota free lunches or tweeting about his pet cat.

It’s in stark contrast to what some see in their own fathers - who often have more conservative political views. 

“He is silly. My dad used to be very, very silly and goofy,” Pamela Wurst Vetrini, a woman who recently compared Walz to her father, said in a viral TikTok video.

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A lot of us had moderate to conservative, educated, sensible fathers that we lost to Rush Limbaugh. That we lost to Fox News. That we lost to Donald Trump. And the cult of conservatism that has grown and grown and grown has driven a wedge between millennial woman and her father,” she said.

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[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Goofy dad calling in the national guard on BLM protestors. Silly goose!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago
[-] Samvega 6 points 4 months ago

I AM shocked. The cropping of this screenshot is terrible.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Lol yeah dismiss facts because you didnt like the instance I have a second account on.

also lol keep lapping up the dem propaganda unquestioningly

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Hexbear hypocrite hating on some guy who provides tampons to trans people.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

If he won't stand up against the genocide his party supports and calls the national freaking guard on BLM protestors, a move so fashist it impressed even Trump:

"I was very happy with the last couple of days, Tim," Trump continued. "You called up big numbers and the big numbers knocked them out so fast it was like bowling pins."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502

then I don't know how hating on him makes me a hypocrite.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

LOL an opinion article from Haaretz about American politics.

And, of course, you'll be fine denouncing that paper when it supports genocide as being completely unreliable as a source.

But when it agrees with you...

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You have no idea that the context of citations matters do you?

a) it's an opinion article, I'm not linking it because of factual reporting, which indeed the Haaretz is unreliable on.

b) the point is that the Haaretz, which is trying to whitewash the genocide, is cool with Walz.

I would also cite far-right american newspapers if I wanted to showcase how the far-right likes someone and approves of their "silence".

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Cool. Show us how the far-right in America really likes Tim Walz then (one single positive comment about an event that happened years ago is not enough to show that they like someone, sorry). Especially considering they were all pissed off Harris didn't pick Shapiro.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why? For what point? Can you only be critical of people the far-right endorses or are you just trying to move the goal posts?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

For your point. The one you just made and I replied to. You do read your own posts, right?

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I made no point that would imply the american far-right endorses Tim Walz.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I see, so only the far-right in Israel likes him. The far-right in America hates him.

Well, since he isn't running for Vice President of Israel, sounds like he's a better choice than the people the far-right likes.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

he only supports genocide abroad and not at home, so he's a better choice

Israel is basically the US' puppet. They could stop the genocide at any point. Electing him and Harris means they won't.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In case you haven't noticed, there are only two choices that have any chance of winning and the team he's on is one of them.

So are you saying Trump and Vance would be better? Because it's going to be one or the other.

Also, remember that other post you made a couple of minutes ago where you said you were going to stop responding to me?

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I'm saying don't cheerlead people like Harris or Walz. Don't portray them as cuddly dads or stalwart progressives when they aren't. Be critical of them and demand better.

Yet everyone here is trying to turn this into some lib-lovefest for Harris/Walz, dutifully portraying them in the best way possible, shouting down any criticisms, desperately trying to uphold the Burgfriedenspolitik. Almost everyone here has bought into the "it's the evil usurpers vs the forces of light" narrative when the truth is they're both differently colored masks for the same genocidal settler empire.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yes. Everyone. I'm totally doing that right now. Look at me just lovingly lovely love on Tim Walz who I have said nothing about beyond him being one of two viable VP choices and suggesting that the American far-right doesn't actually like him.

Which is basically the equivalent of sucking someone's cock, am I right?

And I guess that whole stopping responding to me comment was a lie.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are though, you really are adamant about upholding Burgfriedenspolitik within the dem base, I just don't think I will be able to explain to you what I mean by that within this context.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I am? Please quote me doing so.

Because I can quote you:

what are you even trying to say? Is it just word salad to get the last post in? Just DM me, you can have it.

Seems to me someone has a bit of an honesty problem.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You haven't DM'd me so.... is this your request for the last post?

As for your adherence to Burgfriedenspolitik, it's demonstrated by your very first reply to me, dimissing my point because of the instance where I have a second account.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Once again, my reply to you had nothing to do with Tim Walz. I know you really want it to have to do with Tim Walz, but it was about you. Not him.

Unless you are Tim Walz. Are you Tim Walz? If so, buck up, little camper! You have self-esteem issues!

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Once again, my reply to you had nothing to do with Tim Walz.

Thats my point! You ran nose-first into what I'm talking about when I say "dismissing my point" and "shouting down criticism"!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Your point is that I'm part of a love-fest for Tim Walz by not talking about Tim Walz? Holy fuck, almost 8 billion people love Tim Walz!

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Can you really not see it? Are you trolling me?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

No. I really can't see how I'm part of a love fest for someone I'm not talking about, but I am talking about you.

I guess you're having a love fest for Pol Pot right now since you're talking about me and not Pol Pot.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Best of luck to you then, you'll need it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

What exactly do I need this luck for? Pointing out other needlessly aggressive Hexbear users?

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You'll need it for understanding other peoples point of view. Have a good one.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Understanding the point of view of a Hexbear user and thinking the way it's presented is ridiculously aggressive and full of people who come across as they have no joy in their life and live to be angry is a good way to present that point of view are two different things.

This is not about your point of view no matter how much you try to make it about that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I don't like the instance you're on because it's full of assholes and you're not exactly making it easy for me to change that opinion.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

It doesn't matter what justification you use to keep burying your head in the sand, you're still blinding yourself in a desperate attempt to safeguard some hope about the upcoming election no matter how false it may be.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

In the midst of your righteous anger, you might have missed the point that I wasn't talking about Tim Walz.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

No, you keep trying to deflect from his shitty record to me having a second account on hexbear. I just keep trying to have you take an actual look at the guy and not just blindly cheerlead whoever the dems put in front of you.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I am not a moderator in this community. Believe it or not, I am not able to shut you up or shut you down. You can post a response criticizing Walz in reply to every person on this thread and there would be nothing I could do about it.

Gotta love how people on Lemmy claim you're trying to silence them.

If you're worried about people deflecting from your claims, maybe your claims aren't very good and you should find some claims that people can't deflect.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Gotta love how people on Lemmy claim you’re trying to silence them.

?????

if people use ad hominems it's because your claim wasn't good enough

what are you even trying to say? Is it just word salad to get the last post in? Just DM me, you can have it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Since you seem to have forgotten your own post, I'll help you out:

No, you keep trying to deflect from his shitty record to me having a second account on hexbear. I just keep trying to have you take an actual look at the guy and not just blindly cheerlead whoever the dems put in front of you.

I can't deflect from anything you write. However, you are the one who has decided you don't need to talk about Walz anymore and just bicker with me instead. I didn't force you to do that. I can't even force you to reply.

[-] prole 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you actually listen to his recounting of the situation... Yeah, actually. I would say that the way he handled that was absolutely the way a (good) dad would.

Including the bit afterwards where they tell you they were wrong for the initial overreaction, but they did it out of fear for your safety.

But after actually listening to why you're mad, you talk it out and guess what? He recognizes that your anger is valid and opened a dialogue to help fix those problems.

If that's not "great dad" energy, then I dunno what is.

But let's not let actual facts get in the way of you pretending to be a progressive on the internet to make leftists look bad.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Got any links because the search engines are cluttered with articles fact checking trump who keeps wanting to take credit for calling in the national guard.

edit:

If you actually listen to his recounting of the situation

How can I if I only get downvoted with no replies? I'm not even arguing here just asking what it is that I haven't seen.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago
[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ok, but the poster above is saying that Walz admitted to being in the wrong and that his was an overreaction. I would like to know the context of this.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the police state violently crushing dissent is actually good when it's done by someone who reminds me of my dad!

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

two comments below yours:

he made sure only those who deserved it got abducted from the streets

sometimes daddy needs to put his foot down and disappear people I guess?

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

you don't understand, those people definitely deserved it. they were the bad protestors, not the good protestors. the foot-soldiers of the state only attack people who deserve it. this is basic freedomology.

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