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[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 137 points 4 months ago

The report cites inexperienced workforce, exacerbated by the limited pool to hire from in New Orleans and the non-competitive wages Boeing offers compared to other aerospace companies. Mobile and Huntsville are right there. Lol, pony up, Boeing.

And the report mentions operators are given work instructions that lack detail and require the operator to go diving through multiple levels of specifications and historical records to understand what to do. This speaks to inadequate manufacturing engineers and processes, who are putting out the inadequate work instructions. So I'm assuming the non-competitive pay and retention problems apply to their engineers too, not just the hourly operators and mechanics.

Work for Boeing for bad pay and to see this shit in the news? Or hop over to Mobile, AL to work for Airbus at a better wage on a popular commercial plane with good reliability and a good reputation. Decisions, decisions.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 65 points 4 months ago

the report mentions operators are given work instructions that lack detail and require the operator to go diving through multiple levels of specifications and historical records to understand what to do

Damn, That's a red flag for anything that flies. I imagine their compliance checklists during assembly are a mess.

[-] bowser1035@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

I work in automotive as an engineer and that would be a red flag in our industry too. Our safety standards are only a fraction as strict as aerospace for obvious reasons (we’re not shooting cars through the atmosphere at the speed of sound!), but we’d never get away with this with the amount of audits and accountability that we’re held to. This whole saga is absolutely insane.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

And then there Tesla with masking tape, dish soap, and 2x4s lmao.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Ah, but Tesla is really an AI company that happens to sell cars.

  • 🪄Musk as he waves away the auditors
[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Hmm, space is a little different because so many products are one-offs. It’s hard to design checklists and detailed procedures when you’re making what are essentially prototypes each time. So you make more general processes and then your engineers apply them as needed to each unique build. It can end up looking like a bit of a mess. Space builds rely a lot on expert techs, good modular documentation, and multiple layers of engineering oversight because things change along the way and you can’t always plan for it.

I’m a process engineer at a different aerospace company. I standardize as much as I can and work hard to make instructions clear but man it’s a struggle. Boeing’s space group needs to pay people enough to retain good talent, because they’re all making decisions all day long.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago

Bold assumption that someone has written good, comprehensive checklists. Sounds possible if not likely that they're underpaid and under supported too.

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