Where I live in the US that’s in the millions, hundreds of millions even. Also, if that budget dries up then they don’t plow shit. They’ll usually get an emergency fund but it takes a few days, while it’s snowing…

It’d be hilarious if it’s was Elon Musk’s little shit. That kid basically kicked him in the balls already so why not finish the job?

How do you even get your hands on a cassowary egg and not die a horrible death. Emu’s are chill as long as you’re a guy

Jesus: oh! Yea, I can make it. I’ll bring the wine

Judas: it’ll be the last wine you ever have

Jesus: wait what?

Judas: I said yea that’ll be fine

The Wilier and Canyon are both endurance bikes vs the Pino which is a performance/race. Wilier is still the most comfortable and fast af, but you’re right in that the Canyon was mid-level and has a very different geo so it’s kinda hard to compare-ish. I was actually really surprised at how comfortable the Pino Dogma felt, that would be my go to for races if I owned it.

I actually haven’t ridden any high quality Ti bikes yet, but have heard nothing but great reviews. I’m actually looking at a few companies: No.22, Moots, Seven, and a couple other ti + carbon hybrid. No.22 came out with this new performance bike that they 3D print with very high quality Ti and it’s like $12-15k. You should check out those brands I mentioned, they each have their own custom Ti + Carbon Gravel (or full Ti) builds and it’s not going to hurt the bank account too much (I think $6-8k full build). A couple of friends that ride gravel swear by these hybrid type builds for the exact reasons you mentioned.

So, I’ve also ridden a wide range of bikes and prices. $11k Wilier Granturismo is 100% more comfortable than Canyon Endurace (at least the CF SL Di2 I use to ride) and the Dogma I rode in Italy was oddly more comfortable than the Canyon (but I don’t own the Dogma, just rented for a few months). The Canyon was 100% more comfortable than the Trek domaine (entry level).

As for speed, high end bikes have more carbon components than a $4-6k bike, so naturally when you ride a lighter bike you’ll increase your speed to a point. But yes, the thing that makes you faster is you and not necessarily the bike, but having a bike that’s lighter sure does help.

I’m not totally disagreeing with you btw, I think if I could start all over again I would get fitted, buy a carbon frame + fork + saddle post, Ultegra Di2, carbon wheels and handlebar, like $150 saddle, and I’ll be set. Probably cost around $6-8k, and if I went used I could probably get it for $4k.

At the same time, why do people buy a BMW? A car just gets you from point A to point B, why would you spend significantly more when a Honda is more economical and reliable? My point is, people can spend their money how they want and that’s okay. $11k got me the perfect bike and there’s nothing I would change about it and I’ll have it for the rest of my life. It’s just odd to me that people get so abrasive (not you, just in general) about the cost of high end bikes, but a $120k car or truck that’s used to go to the grocery store, nobody bats an eye.

As someone that has a $11k bike I can clarify some things.

I have a Wilier Granturismo SLR. About ~90% of the components are carbon fiber. Carbon Fiber, especially high end carbon fiber isn’t cheap. Besides the bike; my wheels, pedals, parts of the cranks, handlebars, saddle, saddle post, and probably some other things are carbon fiber.

I always hear people talk about getting carbon fiber components for cheaper because you have a shit tin of Chinese companies come in and steal these bike companies IP and make shit frames. Look at Chinorellos, shit ton of Chinese companies steal frame designs and re-make them with shit metal and the bike falls apart after a year.

Another thing…why does any give a fuck how much my bike costs? My dad is an audiophile guy and my bike costs as much as 1 (not a pair) of his speakers, and he has a mid-range system. Cycling is something that I love, I ride almost everyday and will spend hours and hours on the bike. I’d gladly pay less than $11k on my next bike but when you get into the higher end market you’re going to pay more, that’s true across almost ALL sports or hobby activities

He doesn’t pay them though, she was just switching her story back. Here she is criticizing him over not paying https://www.threads.net/@masterbeefresolver/post/DH4WVh1h7Q7

So, you want to bring a child into this world with that man and not get paid? Hard pass on me bro

He doesn’t pay them anything, straight from the horses mouth https://www.threads.net/@masterbeefresolver/post/DH4WVh1h7Q7

You don’t become a billionaire by being ethical or nice. They probably have their own self interests in things that we don’t know about and will probably never know about. To me at least, there is no difference between a Elon Musk and Bill Gates, sure one is less of an ass but these billionaires live on another planet that very few “normal” people get to see what kind of people they truly are.

That’s why they care. China sells the US a lot of things and cutting off your biggest consumer isn’t good for your economy. China understands this and is now starting to dump their US debt via bonds so they’re not tied to US based securities. China will find another trading partner because Trumps a fucking moron and the other countries he’s isolating need someone to fill their trading gap.

As firm as a used sofa bed maybe