Look you want me to address this sure, the poster above said that this had only been going on for about 100 years, but its not, this region has been in contention between various religious and ethnic groups and the Jews for 1000s of years, I just provided historical examples. How is that not relevant to the original poster claiming this started recently?

My point is this, I think your world view is this, that what actually happened is indeterminable, and that the only way forward that's just is to conflate what's happened into whatever looks best for "your side". I'll explain why I think this is awful, because in a large part there have been active efforts to end the apartheid in Gaza and to free its people, but this convolution of my side is the only side that's correct has been a major driving force behind making sure the walls stay up. I only see the war ending 2 ways, either Israel glasses gaza or the shit finally gets resolved and out of all this bloodshed Israel and palistine become regional powers. this, objective denying of facts and twisting the rhetoric will help lead to the former, not the latter.

why would a Jew want to leave 1930s Germany after Hitler took power and promised to wipe out all the Jews? I don't know, its a mystery to me. I'm not talking to anybody else but you at this point. Consider what you're saying, you've been duped into thinking facts are meaningless unless used for retoric. Never say this, >Nazis also supported Zionism. How will you resolve this contradiction i wonder. unless you're the lowest form of scum on earth.

Nazis also supported Zionism. How will you resolve this contradiction i wonder.

So... are you a nazi? You keep on saying these things nazis say, I get that you would never admit it on a public form but for real, thats mask off.

Are they the same as the Yishuv who collaborated with the Nazis?

Is the same shit I heard coming from nazis in the teens. You can say all these fancy words or whatever, but I'm mad at you for talking like a nazi.

that was 15% of the population of Hebron (4th largest city in Palistine at that moment) at the time, you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence.

blatant denial of history, they were driven out again in 31 and 36, and the British were the ones who killed the vast majority of Arabs.

I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I'm not the one who conflated "indigenous" Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I'm a zionist that's laughable, I just know the history of the region

Unironically I've heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I'm going to assume you know what demographic they're from, and that that's not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don't agree with nazis

They were Old Yishv, they were part of the foundation of Israel.

I drove this bridge fairly regularly when I lived in the bay. I've personally never seen the actual bridge itself slowed down, it's mostly the north side entrance failing to understand how to zipper merge and backing up to the 101. The south side will also back up but that's also before the bridge and more importantly its due to the 10 lane toll booth right before the entrance.

Opening a lane on the south side will not fix this issue like it did on the north side, (Due to the toll road and the major merge a mile up the road). you're essentially shutting down access to east bay for thousands of bicyclists for a fix that frankly isn't needed and wont work.

I don't know where this site will go, but it's certainly very interesting seeing an actual community on these little servers.