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[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago

Put them both in soundproof booths and only turn on their microphones when it’s their turn to actually respond to a question.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Let's make it more interesting, shock collars for both of them.

[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Don't bring your kink into this

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You got me but who wouldn’t want to see Trump take so many Amps he craps himself on live TV?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Definitely a difficult fap

[-] docAvid@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, definitely not my kink, an absolute turn off, but still.... Very compelling TV.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You can’t broadcast the murder of two elderly people on national TV, they’d have put it on HBO or pay per view

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It has seemed like the painfully obvious solution for years to simply have both mics powered off until and unless it's time for that candidate to speak.

If they get 30 seconds, after 30 seconds, the timer cuts the power again.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is genius

[-] snownyte@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago

There's no point in debating anyways. What has Trump done in all of the debates he's ever partaken in since 2016? It's nothing but loud mouth, underhanded and stepping over boundaries kind of tactics. That's all he's got, it's all he's had and it's all he's ever going to have. There is no point in debating about serious issues with a diaper-shitting loudmouth who's going to just rabble at you. It'd be like talking to a dumb Reddit troll who's an armchair know-it-all.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

there's no point debating at all because it doesn't change anyone's minds, it's just who can score the more points. trump knows how to score points: be funny and roast the competition rather than droning on about politic minutae that no one watching truly cares about or remembers

and if the issues are so serious, why would you not interrupt the opposition and be underhanded rather than letting him carry on to be polite? pandora's box has been opened, debates are effectively entertainment and people want their guy to be entertaining. i wish someone on the left would adopt the trump style bombast and use it benevolently

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago

I think it could strengthen Biden's chances. There's nothing for Trump to really hit Biden with. All of Biden's major fuck ups or unpopular stances are exacerbated under Trump.

Biden tried for a bipartisan immigration bill that Trump wouldn't support. So nothing on immigration.

Biden is still funding Israel which Trump is all in on. So only vector there is that Biden doesn't want obvious genocide, not a strong point.

Interest rates trending downward, so "economy" is toothless.

It would actually be good if Trump tried to attack him on anything like that.

[-] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget that the RNC voted unanimously to withdraw from the Commission on Presidential Debates. Not sure ol Trump would abide, but no GOP candidates are to appear in primary or presidential debates not sanctioned by the RNC. They withdrew after Trump complained about timing, formats, and moderators.

I'd be surprised if the DNC let the RNC, let alone Trump, set all the rules.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Biden doesn't want a debate.

And trump doesn't either.

So they're both going to say they're willing but can't because of ______.

Last election I'm pretty sure was the first in modern history we didn't get the standard 3, I'll be surprised if we get 1 this time.

I'm pretty sure Biden does want a debate. He's been intentionally pushing Trump's buttons for a minute now.

He would be ecstatic if he could get Trump to sundown during a debate, which is likely why Trump's handlers won't let him do it.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Or, at least, get to tell him to shut up on TV again.

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[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What does that mean, to sundown?

[-] idiomaddict@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

People with Alzheimer’s tend to be in better spirits with more manageable symptoms during the day and the difference can be striking. Because it’s frequently tied to the daylight, to “sundown” is to experience more severe Alzheimer’s symptoms. Basically, if Biden can get trump to have a brain fart and show mental incompetence.

Sidenote: I’m pretty sure I write like chatgpt, which is a fucking problem for the thesis I’m working on.

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[-] horsey@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I forgot how Trump and friends seemed to try to intentionally give Biden Covid last time.

Anyway, I think it’s unlikely Trump will debate him. If they do, the moderators should definitely enforce turning off the mic when it’s not someone’s turn to talk and not allow Trump to creepily wander around the stage and stand behind Biden like he did to Clinton.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

There’s absolutely nothing in it for Biden. Nor for the country. It’s just a grotesque spectacle.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Nor for the country.

I disagree. As fucked as this particular situation is, the people should be able to watch the candidates answer hard questions. That's what happens normally and I don't see why that should change just because the diaper shitting orange narcissist is involved.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It shouldn’t make a difference, but here we are. It’s utterly pointless.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not pointless. One thing narcissists and wannabe strongmen do is act like they are above the rules that the rest of us have to abide by. Norms and conventions are for the little people. A good way to push back is to hold them to the same standards as anybody else. It sends the message that they aren’t special, and if Trump doesn’t like that, well tough shit. Let Biden have the allotted time all to himself in that case.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only way to get through to Trump is to imprison him (actually, I doubt he could own up to his actions, even then). I’d be fine with Biden listing out policy positions and answering questions for an hour.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s one way, not the only way. One thing narcissists cannot abide is ridicule but I don’t know if Biden is the guy to do that. If he could provoke Trump into a meltdown on live TV that could be enough to seal a second term. It’s a shame it’s not Newsom though, I’m not a huge fan of his but he would straight up roast Trump for 90 minutes.

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

watch the candidates answer hard questions

You think they'll actually answer ANY questions?

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s on whoever is chosen to moderate the debate but yes, they need to be held to account.

[-] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

We have yet to see a lawyer, judge, politician, or rational human being be able to successfully moderate Donald Trump, that's what the other person is saying. He's a toddler, he's either babbling nonsense or he's having a temper tantrum. There's no point in a debate if the person you're debating just wants to whine and lie.

But, I suppose if you want to watch 2 geriatrics losing touch with reality in different ways, at different stages, you could always volunteer at a nursing home.

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[-] Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

Remember last time when Trump did whatever the negligent version of attempted assassination is by going on stage with COVID?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

DO NOT DO THIS.

JOE - Whoever - SERIOUSLY. Do. Not. Get into the same room / frame / discussion with that traitorous rapist garbage. Don’t even joke about it. No.

No, no, no.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This is exactly how I speak to my dad when he wants to play a game of pool. I tell him that I’ll play only if he doesn’t throw temper tantrums, he tells me that he’ll do his best and I always regret my decision. I haven’t played pool with him in years. The only way to win is to not play.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, when he's dead.

People that old don't change unless they're willing. And someone who throws temper tantrums at billiards is not at all willing.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

why would they debate this election has been over since it started

same two old fucks as last time that are corporate as hell and won't do shit for the american people

at least now the two corporate parties have stopped the theater act and are just like fuck it does not matter anyway our shareholders will win either way

[-] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

One wants to install a real fascist state for the first day of their second term. The other not.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Keep repeating this.

One will pardon every convicted felon from January 6th. The other... will continue to keep them in jail.

Totally the same!

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

One will pardon every convicted felon from January 6th.

I doubt that. Trump will only pardon people for whom there is an economic advantage for him to do so.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

They should debate so people can understand that they are not the same despite some people repeating it over and over again as if they can convince other people.

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[-] docAvid@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

On the one hand, candidates should not, under any circumstances, have a choice. Eligibility for office should be predicated on participation in public debates, structured and moderated under direct democratic control. On the other hand, stopping Trump is essential, and in the system we have, not the system I wish we had, this is a good strategy. Biden is assuming the role of adult in the room, and making Trump come to him, setting vague terms he never actually has to deliver on. He's setting up the conclusion that if there isn't a debate, it's because Trump was an ill-behaved child, but if there is, it will be on Biden's terms. Very well played.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If he does do a debate with Trump he should do to Trump what Trump did to Hillary. Bring in rape victims of his, set up a booth for them to sit at before it starts, then call the media over to talk to them.

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