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Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

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[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 158 points 8 months ago

They definitely made more than that selling data what a fucking joke

[-] db2@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago

F*C fines are just protection money payments.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago

$16.5 million is not even a slap on the wrist

[-] Contend6248@feddit.de 19 points 8 months ago

A great business model actually

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 72 points 8 months ago

Five years ago, I posted on Reddit about how Avast had installed a browser without my consent and set it as default while I was out of town and away from my computer. That post has had comments added to it several times a year ever since, meaning that they're still trying that nonsense. They stole my data without my consent by importing all of my browser data, and now it's come out that they blatantly sold it without my consent as well.

I said it then, and I say it now: If you install something without my knowledge or consent, you're a virus, plain and simple.

[-] LoremIpsumGenerator@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

Cybersec company ❌

Advertisement/Data mining ✔️

[-] Kinglink@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

Jesus Christ.

Remember when Google's Motto was "Don't be Evil" It was supposed to be a jab at Microsoft, but it feels like every year tech companies find news ways to just be fucking evil.

PS. Google kind of fails to live up to that motto too, I don't even know if it's still an official motto.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 45 points 8 months ago

Google execs knew this motto will just get in the way of maximizing profits for shareholders, so they dropped it a few years ago.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago

I don’t even know if it’s still an official motto.

It's not

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago

No they officially (quietly) dropped it like a decade ago

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

No, they didn't. Alphabet was created as a parent company in 2015 and uses the similarly vague "Do the right thing" in their code of conduct. Google itself still has "Don't be evil" in their code of conduct, unchanged. Google needed Alphabet to not be Google (or they'd get fined to hell) so having everything identical wouldn't have been a smart idea.

That this easily Google-able myth is so pervasive is a wonderful microcosm about online gullibility and laziness.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393

Wow literally the first thing i searched.

And get fucked for your tone you pedantic little punk.

[-] Promethiel@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Love the vibe and energy against pretense for pretense sakes, but your source makes you seem demented as it literally repeats exactly what they said if you read it.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well fuck me then lol. Swhat i get for linking gizmodo. I'll take the L. Still that guy sucked and i won't unblock him

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I too love blocking people who make reading this place shittier.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Read your own article all the way to the bottom ❤️

(Also thank you for citing a fucking Gizmodo article from 2018 instead of the actual Google Code of Conduct which is the top result for "Google Code of Conduct to prove my point about laziness beautifully. Please note, you'll have to read all the way to the end again, sorry. https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/)

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Kind of? They would happily sell your mother heroine and auction off her house. They fail at not being evil like Antarctica fails at being hospitable to palm trees.

[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

I'm all for crapping on large publicly traded companies but lumping Google in with companies that sell your data isn't honest. Google does not and never has sold user data. They sure as hell use your data for their own ad network but they do not sell that data wholesale. Meta and other data brokers sell your data and this Avast company sells your data through a product they claimed stopped tracking. I'm not pro-Google but to compare their business model (which is very transparent about how it handles your data and how it's never sold) to Avast's business model (which is to completely lie to the end user while literally selling everything that user does) is not an honest comparison.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Corporations have no soul to damn and no body to incarcerate.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago

This is a careful reminder to be VERY SCEPTICAL about not only "anti-viruses" (like bro, Windows defender is good enough), but also browsers. There is a high probability that the company is either a data broker or fintech... looking at you, Opera.

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Do we know how much money they made on it? If it was more than $16.5 then it was still a good step on their balance sheet.

This stuff needs to be fined at the full income they made from the tool plus some penalty. Corporations only care about their balance sheets.

[-] Interstellar_1@pawb.social 41 points 8 months ago

That's horrifying. I remember using the avast private browser when I was younger as to not get tracked by Google chrome, but i was just getting tracked by avast instead. :(

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 27 points 8 months ago

It's capitalism. You get to choose who steals your personal data.

[-] THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 15 points 8 months ago

Unless you use a trusted firefox fork

I kinda feel like capitalism is treating me like a lemon thief these days.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 5 points 8 months ago

You lemon stealing whore!

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[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 38 points 8 months ago

And I'm sure that fine was as high or higher than the profit they made from the data... what, it wasn't?!

[-] crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 8 months ago
[-] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Jesus christ right!! I'm curious how much they made off that data.

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is fucking garbage.

When a company gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar, it's not a punishment to put one of the cookies back.

Fines should be ten TIMES what the company made from their misbehaviour, not ten percent.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 26 points 8 months ago

Ah, the snake oil turned out to be poisonous.

[-] kworpy@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

Can't believe a company with a notorious history of spying on users is at it again for the 234th time!

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is there a class action lawsuit?

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Avast, the cybersecurity software company, is facing a $16.5 million fine after it was caught storing and selling customer information without their consent.

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) announced the fine on Thursday and said that it’s banning Avast from selling user data for advertising purposes.

From at least 2014 to 2020, Avast harvested user web browsing information through its antivirus software and browser extension, according to the FTC’s complaint.

“We are committed to our mission of protecting and empowering people’s digital lives,” Avast spokesperson Jess Monney said in a statement to The Verge.

“While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”

In January, the FTC reached a settlement with Outlogic (formerly X-Mode Social) that prevents the data broker from selling information that can be used to track users’ locations.


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[-] noorbeast@lemmy.zip 20 points 8 months ago

“While we disagree with the FTC’s allegations and characterization of the facts, we are pleased to resolve this matter and look forward to continuing to serve our millions of customers around the world.”...translation, we regret being caught but look forward to the opportunity of exploring alternate ways to exploiting consumers for profit.

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 11 points 8 months ago
[-] ggnoredo@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

who the f*ck uses Avast in 2024? I get it you use Windows for reasons but anti virus software? really?

I keep telling my mom this, that antivirus is a joke. But every time i visit to fix her slow computer there's at least one program running

[-] slowroll@r.nf 5 points 8 months ago

this, i prefer the service based on Free and Open Source Software,

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