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Disposable vapes: Councils call for total ban by 2024
(www.bbc.co.uk)
disposables shouldn't exist altogether.
Oh yeah, fuck the medical and care fields entirely, not to mention food preparation and hygiene.
Rather than come in aggressive, why not educate? It's easy to forget that there are genuine needs for disposable items when you don't encounter them every day.
Lol, I did educate, you not liking my tone is a you problem.
No, I’ve absolutely no idea what the issues are with those two sectors. You explained nothing
Reminder to everyone reading this BLOCK THIS USER
Take a look at their post history and how they interact with anyone. It's condescending, vitriolic and pedantic at every turn. I don't wanna see comments like this as they literally just go out looking for arguments. It makes our communities worse and leans into the idea that redditors are pedantic assholes.
If you just block them then they can fester in an argumentative corner with the other cretins. The rest of us can have chill open discussions and actually behave like normal fucking human beings.
I've come across this prat before, literally every single thread that they're in they have to take some stupid brainless position just to be argumentative, for the sake of being argumentative. It's not worth interacting with them, they're not interested in an actual discussion because they don't actually have an opinion, they just want to be awkward.
If there was a thread the sky is blue, they'd probably take the opposite position just to be irritating. They have no opinion of their own.
what are you saying??? how do disposable vapes help with food preparation and hygiene
No, but neither were you saying "disposables vapes shouldn’t exist altogether", you were making an ignorant generalisation about "disposables", and I pointed out that there is significantly more nuance to it that you seem to grasp.
Perhaps in future say what you actually mean.
He is in a thread talking about disposable vapes. It is very easy to grasp that his comment was entirely about vapes. You have somehow taken a huge mental leap, to arrivale at disposable everything.
They literally said disposables shouldn’t exist altogether
I think it's a huge mental leap to pretend they were being nuanced and accurate with their words or to act surprised that someone took their words literally as they presented them.
You're having an argument with an imaginary position rather than asking them to clarify. It's beyond stupid to assume their position when you didn't have enough information to begin with. You're not showing yourself to be as smart as you seem to think you are.
Except they DID have enough information as this entire conversation is taking place under a "UK is considering banning disposable vapes" thread. The "well actually" is strong in this one.
Lmfao, and you lot are throwing a hissy fit because someone pointed out a position you never generally consider and made you uncomfortable.
I'm done here, feel free to continue shouting the defences of your cognitive dissonance in to the void... 👍
Oh so now it's a hissy fit because you don't wanna admit you're being a prick and don't know how to effectively communicate. That's definitely a you problem lol.
You are literally having another imaginary argument where everyone else is cognitively dissonant to your position. I wish I could be this deluded and self aggrandising.
Hey, I think you might need this:
https://www.udemy.com/course/communication-fundamentals-how-to-communicate-better/
I think you're getting a bit too worked up about pixels on a screen
Ah, yes, the "over sensitive" dismissal, a classic. Gotta make sure you never consider for a second that you might simply need to express yourself more clearly in future.
Good luck with that.
Oh. Was your reading comprehension so bad, you thought he was talking about disposable nappies in a thread about disposable vapes?
Context is important. From the context, the OP was talking just about disposable vapes.
Yes, context is important, and as a disabled person I have the context of seeing people all over the internet call for an end of disposables and single use plastics literally all the time without ever once considering the impact that would have, so yes, context is important, and if they didn't mean disposables shouldn’t exist altogether, they shouldn't have said that. Or at least not be surprised when somebody points out the issues with such a generalisation.
One things for sure - the reddit migration did nothing to improve this community...
Please stay on Reddit, I think your way of communicating is much better suited for over there. Speaking for myself I think you make this community much worse than someone missing a piece of context in a comment.
Bruh you literally just commented on how prisons are slave labour
You well know all disposables should be phased out aswell. They may provide a place in the medical and food fields but we can come up with alternatives given time
One has nothing to do with the other, but I'm glad you got a good stretch this morning!
As a fellow disabled person. Simmer the fuck down.
Their comment was clearly in context of the title, regarding disposable vapes.
And actually, you did nothing to improve this community or comment section.
I'd say have a nice day, but please don't.
As a fellow cripple, you gotta find some chill, my homie.
I think you dropped your magical fedora of pedantry. I hope you don't interact with people in real life this way.
lol, you go ahead ant tell yourself whatever makes you feel better..
No, you were intentionally ignoring the obvious context to score internet points. Either you knew the context and ignored it to be a jerk, or you honestly misinterpreted the context and tripled down when you realized you were wrong.
I've been vaping for nearly a decade now but I agree with getting rid of these disposables. Totally bad for the environment.
And since these are the ones that teens are said to be using in schools it might kill 2 birds with one stone.
My only worry is that once they start regulating things, they'll fuck up non disposables too somehow. Like they did with the max nicotine level and the tank capacity.
I have a friend in Germany that only buys vape liquid and stuff when he visits the UK because they taxed them to oblivion where he is
It's really confusing. I swear they all used to be reusable with refill bottles, then at some point they just changed to disposable.
Honestly, you would think it would be easy to push refillables... like that would sell just fine. My suspicion is, like ink printers, they don't want people using other liquids.
In the long run the disposable ones work out to be more expensive which means they make more profit.
But it's hard for the average consumer to notice that because it takes a while to build up the price.
It's like the difference between paying for a subscription £90 once a year, Vs paying £10 a month, for 12 months.
Obviously you are better off with the £90 option but it feels like a larger amount if you don't pay attention.
That would be the concern. The "for the children" argument is often how governments open the door; after they establish a precedent (disposables are bad) they can start scaling up to other aspects using the same argument.
"Children are buying vape stuff in pretty colors!" "Children like the pretty vapor!" Etc.
I really like these disposables but I totally understand why they shouldn't be available.
I've been informed that these should be treated like batteries when recycling.
Well, they do have batteries so, yeah. That's the issue I have with them: they're made of a finite, fairly precious and environmentally damaging material but the manufacturers specifically sell them as disposable. At least a McDonalds carton dumped on the roadside will dissolve to harmless mush in a few months, but disposable vapes won't; they're going to landfill, or down drains into rivers, or exploding in compactors and the manufacturers know it.
They’re really handy in a pinch but some people seem to only buy disposables. If you’re going to start vaping then you’re much better off getting a proper battery rather than burning through disposables.
I've become pretty convinced over the last few years they should just clamp down on all non-refillable devices. I have a feeling this would stop a lot of teen vaping, because messing about with coils and liquids takes any glamour out of the thing
The EU are introducing new laws that require batteries be easily user-replacable in devices like vapes. I'm hoping that'll kill them off if nothing else.
Just imagine the malicious compliance. Replaceable batteries but not liquid
I've picked them up for a night out, but just so I don't lose my proper one. They're also very strong at a base level, they say 2% but a lot of people don't realise that's 20mg. My usual is 3mg as I've cut down, so I feel that the next day.
What gets me is when I see ads for disposables costing less than the individual pods, which still aren't great, but economically it seems bizarre that a whole disposable unit with a battery can be cheaper to make.
The wonders of China.
Although I think the main draw is convenience and variety over cost.
I always prefer disposable-sized vapes, but seriously just get one with replaceable pods. I might spend 60 dollars every two months buying juice and a few packs of coils. The Vaporesso XROS for example is great and I manage to get 4 or 5 days out of each coil replacement.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/council-votes-to-ban-disposable-vapes-290232/ additional link from Kent Online
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