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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy's version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

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[-] cloudless@lemmy.world 183 points 6 months ago

Block these instances: lemmy.ml lemmygrad.ml hexbear.net

There is no point arguing with tankies. They are dumb and they won't change. I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 54 points 6 months ago

I just hope there will be a way to completely block [...] users including their comments.

Remember who the developers are.

[-] cloudless@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Yeah. I hope kbin will grow and have a decent mobile app, then I can finally move over.

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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 163 points 6 months ago

Lemmy.ml is a tankie instance that loves China and hates western countries. Unfortunately, it's also one of the biggest Lemmy instances because it's run by the main devs of Lemmy (who created Lemmy because they were frequently banned on other sites for bootlicking for China). Thankfully, Lemmy is open source and the nature of how it runs allows everyone to ignore the weird ideologies of the devs.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 40 points 6 months ago

It's one of the only 3 instances I block. All tankies bullshit.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 months ago

what are the other two?

I thought I was only blocking two but it seems I am blocking four

hexbear.net lemmy.ml alien.top lemmygrad.ml

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[-] wahming@monyet.cc 111 points 6 months ago

Hey fellow non-China Chinese. Just block lemmy.ml, lemmy grad.ml and hexbear for a much better lemmy experience.

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 109 points 6 months ago
[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Apparently I make the great yellow peril.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 100 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It was !worldnews@lemmy.ml ... so yeah, almost anyone that say anything against China. It's a tankie instance.

Use !world@lemmy.world instead.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago

It's !world@lemmy.world, the other one is a very inactive community.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lemmy.ml is only a tankie instance to someone that thinks Marxism=tankies

That said, at least one of the Worldnews mods is a pretty evident Pooh Poster.

They'll let people call out the more aggressive bullshit "America bad" rhetoric but if you even look at China funny you're going to eat a permaban.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There is nothing marxist about ml or other tankie places. They are just pure authoritarian brownnosers, and couldn't care less about actual socialism. Tankies are purely in it because they imagine they are going to be the ruling class after their imaginary "revolution", exactly the same way fascists are in it for.

[-] 100@fedia.io 29 points 6 months ago

bootlicking is like their religion

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[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 30 points 6 months ago

a tankie is someone who tends to support "militant opposition to capitalism", and a more modern online variation, which means "something like 'a self-proclaimed communist who indulges in conspiracy theories and whose rhetoric is largely performative.'

I use this definition. And it perfectly applies to a wide range of lemmy.ml users and moderators.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That’s a bad definition.

A tankie is simply a ML who supports the use of force to restrict people’s freedoms. It’s named after the Soviets sending tanks into Hungary to stop a popular democratic uprising, but the same applies to China sending tanks into Tiananmen.

They’re basically super statists who value the state over the people.

All leftists are opposed to capitalism, but obvs tankies are a small minority of leftists, so your definition falls apart.

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[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They don't oppose capitalism (example Russia & China). It's closer to a support for authoritarianism (usually anti-USA, but even there shifts towards more authoritarian leadership receive support)

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 20 points 6 months ago

It's not that they don't oppose capitalism so much that they'll ignore any sense of ideological consistency on their quixotic quest to make sure that everyone knows America is Bad.

If you oppose America, you must be good, it doesn't matter if you're a genocidal kleptocracy or a genuine fascist. Internally this is rationalized by viewing America as the most dominant and powerful force for capitalism in the world, it doesn't matter if other, even worse capitalists tear it down because the American empire must fall for socialism to rise.

And it's not like that particular thought is wrong, in a vacuum. America has proven time and time again that it will break any moral barrier to attack anyone even suspected of being a socialist, it's just so evidentally self defeating you have to wonder if there are any true believers at all or if they're all sockpuppets run from a Russian speaking basement somewhere.

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[-] amio@kbin.social 24 points 6 months ago

Lemmy.ml is only a tankie instance to someone that thinks Marxism=tankies

lmao

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[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

For those of you asking/ curious, the reason given was 'yellow peril'. Really? I guess my being asian and directly affected by the Chinese activities in the scs makes me somehow a threat to yellow people?

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Same. I literally have family in China and therefore a real stake in Chinese society. Meanwhile a bunch of western tankies who have never been to China and don't speak the language hand down bans merely for me relaying conversations I've actually had with real Chinese people in their native language about Chinese history and politics.

It's simple racism to infantilise all Chinese people like this, believing they need a bunch of white saviors on the Internet to speak for them and guard their cultural chastity.

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[-] laverabe@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

thanks for the heads up. I just unjoined all lemmy.ml communities, and blocked the instance. That sort of censorship is not a good thing.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

Some of them came here from Reddit when chapo trap house got banned. Others are straight up BRICS propaganda accounts.

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[-] Quereller@lemmy.one 45 points 6 months ago

The .ml stands for Marxist /Leninist.

[-] Dnn@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Funny, communists always insist China isn't communist at all, so why would they care about it being criticized?

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 6 months ago

Tankies aren't that type of communist, that is, sane. Tankies are auth rights disguised as leftists.

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[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 6 months ago

just block the lemmy.ml instance and if you start to feel annoyed by the hexbear, block that one too. You will not notice any loss

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[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

Fuck the Chinese government.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

That's because the instance was ml. I regularly criticize them in world for their absurd actions.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago
[-] amio@kbin.social 24 points 6 months ago
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[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 23 points 6 months ago

Got banned after calling out russian propaganda for being just that. Literally happened on my first or second day on lemmy.

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