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[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago

0.5 / 0.5 = 1, so reducing the top term by half (from 0.5 to 0.25) reduces the result by the same (from 1 to 0.5), makes perfect sense to me. Or, ya know, just remember that dividing by 0.5 is the same as multiplying by 2.

[-] AceSLS@ani.social 14 points 10 months ago

Or even simpler the half of 0.5 fits into 0.25. And we all know a half is 0.5

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I was trying to think how to put that into words with an example like, "how many halves fit in 10? It's 20. So how many halves fit in a quarter? Only half of a half will fit, so 0.5" but I kept screwing up the wording in my head for halves and quarters until I read your reply, so thank you for helping with that clarification. I knew the math was right but couldn't put it into words the way I wanted.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

0.5 / 0.5 = 1

Fuck you, that's even worse!

[-] cholesterol@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

x / x = 1

really shouldn't make anyone upset

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It is the same as 1*x = x

I give you x, once. How many do you have?

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Then X can start tending to hell

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 10 months ago

Dividing any number, except 0, by itself equal 1, so the first part of your argument makes no sense.

[-] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Incorrect. The argument makes perfect sense, you just gave a reason for why the example's initial point seems obvious. Proofs don't need to be fancy or make novel arguments to be effective. It's math, where the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Is this a real stance you're taking or are you just trolling? Explain yourself.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

If you move it around it makes more sense.

.25 = 0.5*0.5

If you take half of something only half of the time you take a quarter of something.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago
[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Maybe someone better at math can answer this, but is 0.25/0.5 functionally the same as 0.5/1, or simply 0.5?

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

You can call it whatever you want, as long as it equals 1/2 it's the same number.

So yes, multiplying by 2/2 to make it more intuitively obvious is perfectly valid and a good way to think about it. Most arithmetic tricks are ultimately multiplying by 1 or adding 0 just to make the problem easier to handle.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah, I just meant that they said I multiplied by 2, which in my head is 2/1 but I was multiplying by 1. Just trying to be clear.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it's easier to picture it in terms of fractions. When you divide by a fraction, you reciprocate the divisor. That is, you flip its numerator and denominator, then multiply them. In this case, we're taking 1/4 and dividing it by 1/2. You take the reciprocal of 1/2, which is 2/1. Then multiply the numerators and denominators. You end up with (1/4)*(2/1)=2/4=1/2=0.5

[-] fellstone 3 points 10 months ago

0.25 is half of 0.5. Alternatively: A quarter is half of half. If you multiplied 0.25/0.5 by 2, then it would be 0.5/1, which is just 0.5.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Didn't I multiple it by 2/2 which is the same as 1? Like isn't 2/8 the same as 1/4?

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[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Dividing by a division of 2... Of course it's going to cancel out. Like subtracting a negative.

Surely you don't not understand double negatives? Just think of it like that.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

Dividing by 0.5 is the same as multiplying by 2. Simple

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

0.25 / 0.5 = 0.25 * 2 = 0.5

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Everything I see memes like this I think:

“Do other people just not get basic math?”

[-] vampire@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Every time I see something like this, the comments remind me that common core mathematics is a thing and it makes me sad.

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Seriously, why is basic arithmetic worthy of so much discussion?

Just... do the math. It's not complicated math.

[-] vampire@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I sometimes feel bad about myself cause I didn't get very far into calculus, but then I remember that the average adult has no idea how fractions work.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
  • 250 marbles / 500 kids = 0.5 marble per kid
  • 25 marbles / 50 kids = 0.5 marble per kid
  • 2.5 marbles / 5 kids = 0.5 marble per kid
  • 0.25 marbles / 0.5 kids = 0.5 marble per kid, but there's only one half a kid with a quarter of a marble in this example.
[-] penquin@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

This is 25/50

[-] TxzK@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

0.5 = 1/2, 0.25 = 1/4

0.25 / 0.5 = (1/4) / (1/2) = 1/4 * 2/1 = 2/4 = 1/2 = 0.5

[-] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A quarter of a half is a half

Edit: its a joke comment guys

[-] The_Cleanup_Batter@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

More accurately a quarter of a whole is a half of a half of a whole

[-] bratosch@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Morer accurately, a quarter of a whole is half of a whole half which is half of a whole

[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

'A quarter of a half' would be 0.5x0.25 (0.5x1/4 = 0.5/4) and it's not a half. The equation shown is 'a quarter divided by a half'.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

You can't even buy boots with a quarter

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

People don’t understand sarcasm lol

[-] maquise@ttrpg.network 6 points 10 months ago

I understand this mathematically, but can somebody explain it logically?

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

0.25 is half of 0.5

[-] MakunaHatata@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Multiplying by 0.5 halves. Dividing would double the number. 0.25 doubled is 0.5.

Sleep well!

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

y/x = x with y = x*x because 0.25 is 0.5 squared.

from the "wow factor" it's the same as writing: 9/3 = 3 - not very wow at all

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Start with the reverse. If you had half a pizza and you wanted to divide it by quarters of a pizza, you'd be able to do it 4 times (there are four quarter slices in a half pizza).

But with this we're asking how many half-pizza slices are in a quarter-pizza slice. The answer is that there's half of one (half of a half is a quarter).

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[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

In case people would like it demonstrated,

0.25/0.5

= 1/4 ÷ 1/2

= 2/4 ÷ 2/2

= 1/2 ÷ 1

A÷1 = A, therefore 0.25/0.5 = 0.5

Alternatively, (a/b)/(c/d) = (a×d)/(b×c)

1/4 ÷ 1/2 = 1×2 ÷ 4×1 = 2/4 = 1/2

[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

And before any pedants crawl out of the woodwork, there are a load of implied brackets, at the spaces.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago
[-] brunogron@feddit.nu 14 points 10 months ago

For that to be true it would have to say 0.25 / 2.

[-] drengbarazi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

same as x * .5 = .25 if that somehow helps ya

I suspect people might be getting confused by this because of colloquialisms like "divided in half", "divided in the middle", "divided by two"

things is, math doesn't care about idioms

another area in mathematics that I've seen ppl (myself included lmao) suffer from this is propositional logic. like with the non exclusive nature of the OR operator

but this is all just a wild guess

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago

I definitely struggle with any math that I can't visualize in a physical way.

[-] jimmux@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Sometimes it clicks if you graph it out with the confusing values on axes.

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