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[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what we get for giving the Confederates Military burials instead of an unmarked mass graves for their murderous treachery in the name of slavery.

Mercy was a mistake.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

Unironically, the leaders of the Confederacy should have been executed for treason.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago

Fuck Andrew Johnson.

“Johnson embarked on a policy designed to restore the former Confederate states to civil government with maximum speed and a minimum disturbance of Southern institutions beyond the abolition of slavery itself,” writes historian Michael Les Benedict. “His policy placed former rebels in political control of nearly every Southern state and left Southern blacks to the mercies of the men who had fought so desperately to keep them in bondage.”

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago

Tennessee: We're not all bigots, but you shouldn't feel safe.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 year ago

Let's proudly expose our slavery heritage while banning a symbol of individual freedom and diversity.

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Done in one.

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago

...while claiming to support "freedom".

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Nashville has had a pride festival for the past thirty five years. They were a member of the confederacy for almost exactly five years.

BuT iTs our hiSTorY!!!

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It's history they want to repeat, not the present they want to accept

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

1st amendment lawsuit, here we come!

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago

That's great, but who's paying for that?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 37 points 1 year ago

I'd bet actual money that the ACLU is already looking for a case to sponsor.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I don't know how many Supreme Court Justices the ACLU can afford.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

If we all kick in $25 we might be able to buy Justice Boofer some coke and a beer....

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'll book a cruise for my very close friend Clarence

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[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This ban is stupid and fuck those politicians, but this article is a little misleading and not a good source of information

They never explicitly voted to keep confederate flags. That being said, one of the many types of flags that are allowed are those deemed “protected historical items” as defined by TN Code § 4-1-412 which does include items relating to “any war, battle, or military conflict in which citizens of the United States or any state or territory of the United States have participated in”.

Funny enough, this law would allow you to carry an Iranian, Soviet, or other flag that would piss people off.

I would recommend this article if you want to learn more.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Florida has declared war on "woke". That should allow all kinds of flags.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Wait that allows for a lot of communist flags. American citizens join basically every army

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Okay thank you for your information! I still wanna share a snarky quote from the article though even if it isn't technically true in the case

If there’s one time ~~the Tennessee~~ legislature feels strongly about protecting free speech rights, it’s when those rights involve a symbol promoting racism and treason against the United States.

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Is there any way to get a pride flag to qualify? Large scale protests seem like they could be historic (although IDK what the actual criteria is) and it would be funny if a protest against a law made the flag protected by the law.

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[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I bet you could hurt some feelings by flying the flag of the Seychelles.
(It's allowed cause the USA flew drone operations out of the Seychelles under the Obama administration.)

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Your "heritage" lasted three years less than the Obama Administration.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago

Ban the confederate flag and prosecute anyone who flies it as an enemy of the state. We keep patting these traitors on the butt then shocked Pikachu-ing when they double down instead of magically seeing the error of their ways. I'm fucking over it and over watching dems use them as an excuse to scurry further right for "moderates" that have never and will never vote dem to please their corporate owners.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The election is coming up in.... now... We've had 4, 6, 8, yrs depending on the goal. I don't think anything just is happening in the next 251 days. I'm very afraid. And the left wing protest vote to elect Trump is such an irrational concept that the fact they believe is reasonable to any extent, already killing future votes of bystanders today, that I don't put it past them to be irrational and hand him Michigan and others on a platter.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

You can screech about leftists all you want, if they're so important maybe it's time democrats work with them instead of spitting in their face then blaming em when dems lose.

Not the lefts fault dems are a stones throw from Republicans, hell look at your narrative - Dems move us towards fascism all the same but oh dems are the only hope to save our nation and leftists are "less than" plebs who are voting wrong by voting for what they feel is right instead of your party cause you say to.

Just admit it, yall love harping about trump because it gives you the high ground against anyone left of Biden - yall hate leftists and see them as enemies WAYYYYYYY more than you ever did Republicans or MAGAts.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm a socialist. For 30 years. An actual activist IRL. Beaten by cops for the first time at age 12, tear gassed multiple times, led protests in NYC, yadda yadda. Sorry, you called out the wrong Internet stranger. There's no y'all. I'm who you believe you are. I want what you purport to want. I also think your personal world view is not grounded in reality and reflects mental illness not that far off from the orange cult. Zero sum game.

The party taking women's agency and promoting fascism is worse than the party that is not. And if you cared about women, trans kids, black people, Muslims, refugees, LGBTQIA+ people, educators, healthcare workers, unionists, any person of color or member of any out group, you'd prioritize protecting them.

Who are you to sacrifice all those people for your ideological screeching about how you wish things were without any actual plan in mind to improve things?

Explain yourself. Don't whataboutism. Respond to the above. I don't think you can. You're selfish. You don't give a shit about other people. You're a loud snowflake troll. I know because I used to be you. Then I grew up and thought about the actual people around me, not the ideological ones I pretended to fight for.

What are you doing to protect your community besides proudly electing a government that stands for its demise, and the demise of your comrades? Seriously, I'm asking.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just admit it, yall love harping about trump because it gives you the high ground against anyone left of Biden - yall hate leftists and see them as enemies WAYYYYYYY more than you ever did Republicans or MAGAts.

I think most of the folks you're talking about are sincerely, above all else, 'not Trump.' and they get defensive at anything that could benefit Trump.

And that's honestly a defensible stance - Trump is an enemy to the US, so keeping him out of power is one of the more productive things any of us can advocate for.

...but other than that, I'm with you. I think it's important that we hold our own accountable and criticize where it's due... blind loyalty is dumb as fuck in any context. The amount of defensiveness and downvotes in response to things like people criticizing Biden for funneling our tax dollars into a genocide is frustrating. I think they mean well - again, 'not Trump' is beyond justified... but that shouldn't be a free pass for 'not Trump' to fund a genocide, and I can't fucking believe that's a controversial take. -_-

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Hi. I also agree with you for the most part. Here's the problem. While you're intelligent enough to appreciate nuance, context, and reality, and motivated enough to still vote, not everyone is. And every demoralized swing state Democrat that stays home in November after reading this equivocation all day every day on here, adds up real quick. Fwiw I vote far left down ballot. I primary'd Pelosi. Biden/Trump isn't the election for protest. It's not where we are today. I hate it. I despise genocide and American colonialism and imperialism. I've been trying to educate people for decades. But here we are. Never-Fascism and the continuity of free elections and human agency supercedes everything else.

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[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Losers love losing. Deniers love denying. Traitors love treason. The GOP loves Trump's shit-crusted cock, but denies being his bottom.

[-] Mostly_Harmless@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I went to grade school in Mississippi, (Air Force brat, 1970's) and here are some fun facts:

  • The day started with the class reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and then singing "Dixie."
  • Every classroom had a paddle hanging near the blackboard. The principle and many of the teachers also had a paddle handing off of their belt.
  • The "That's a Paddlin' " bit on the Simpsons was a 100% accurate representation of my first day in school
  • The Mississippi schools were about 6 months ahead of the Utah schools I came from and they made me do a lot of the homework assigned before I got there.
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[-] ravheim@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's a heritage of hate.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Confederate fascism emerges in the south

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Y'all... what the fuck is happening

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Christofascism

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

Stay classy, America's South...

[-] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

It'd be nice if legislators could just let people have whatever flags they want up.

Neither the Confederate flag nor gay pride flags are religious symbols, so it shouldn't really violate the church-state separation rules.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

You could make a very easy case about one promoting discrimination.

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Um, except one is an (inaccurate) symbol of oppression and hatred and the other represents freedom and expression...

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Well, it was one of the battle flags, so it still is a symbol of oppression and hatred, with an added bit of violence thrown in.

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It wasn't even a battle flag, just a portion of one. That's what I meant by 'inaccurate', but I don't want to get into the nuances because that could detect from the point.

Just to be clear, the point is: fuck racists and bigots. Their bullshit only detracts from civilization.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

symbol of oppression and hatred

symbol of freedom and expression

centrists:

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[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I learned a bit about how Tennessee legislature works after the expulsion last year. It's frighteningly undemocratic, and it's scary to think that it's gotten even more undemocratic since then. Such a shame, I enjoyed my visit to Nashville a lot.

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[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Seems premature, totally on brand for Tennessee.

...oh I meant the legislation. We haven't had the general election for the GOP to steal yet.

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