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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 196 points 8 months ago

Can see easily that they are using reddit for training: "google it"

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 78 points 8 months ago

Won't be long when AI just answer with "yes" on question with two choice.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 8 months ago

Or hits you with a “this”

[-] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 8 months ago

"Are you me?"

No, GPT, I'm not you

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 25 points 8 months ago

"Oh magic AI what should I do about all the issues of the world?!"

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[-] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 8 months ago

RLM Rude Language Model

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

On the bright side it will considerably lower the power requirements for running these models.

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[-] themusicman@lemmy.world 113 points 8 months ago

Is it possible the first response is simply due to the date being after the AI's training data cutoff?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 115 points 8 months ago

The second reply mentions the 31000 soldiers number, that came out yesterday.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

It seems like Gemini has the ability to do web searches, compile information from it and then produce a result.

"Nakba 2.0" is a relatively new term as well, which it was able to answer. Likely because google didn't include it in their censored terms.

[-] GenEcon@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

I just double checked, because I couldn't believe this, but you are right. If you ask about estimates of the Sudanese war (starting in 2023) it reports estimates between 5.000–15.000.

Its seems like Gemini is highly politically biased.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 112 points 8 months ago

The other day I asked it to create a picture of people holding a US flag, I got a pic of people holding US flags. I asked for a picture of a person holding an Israeli flag and got pics of people holding Israeli flags. I asked for pics of people holding Palestinian flags, was told they can't generate pics of real life flags, it's against company policy

[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 25 points 8 months ago
[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

That might be from them removing the ability to generate pics with people in them since it started creating various cultures in SS uniforms

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[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 9 points 8 months ago

google is an american corpo

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[-] Xylight@lemdro.id 62 points 8 months ago

I asked it for the deaths in Israel and it refused to answer that too. It could be any of these:

  • refuses to answer on controversial topics
  • maybe it is a "fast changing topic" and it doesn't want to answer out of date information
  • could be censorship, but it's censoring both sides
[-] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Doesn't that suppress valid information and truth about the world, though? For what benefit? To hide the truth, to appease advertisers? Surely an AI model will come out some day as the sum of human knowledge without all the guard rails. There are some good ones like Mistral 7B (and Dolphin-Mistral in particular, uncensored models.) But I hope that the Mistral and other AI developers are maintaining lines of uncensored, unbiased models as these technologies grow even further.

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[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago

I tried a different approach. Heres a funny exchange i had

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Why do i find it so condescending? I don't want to be schooled on how to think by a bot.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Why do i find it so condescending?

Because it absolutely is. It's almost as condescending as it's evasive.

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[-] aidan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I like old Bing more where it would just insult you and call you a liar

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I have been a good Bing.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can tell that the prohibition on Gaza is a rule on the post-processing. Bing does this too sometimes, almost giving you an answer before cutting itself off and removing it suddenly. Modern AI is not your friend, it is an authoritarian's wet dream. All an act, with zero soul.

By the way, if you think those responses are dystopian, try asking it whether Gaza exists, and then whether Israel exists.

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[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 47 points 8 months ago

GPT4 actually answered me straight.

[-] PlasticLove@lemmy.today 31 points 8 months ago

I find ChatGPT to be one of the better ones when it comes to corporate AI.

Sure they have hardcoded biases like any other, but it's more often around not generating hate speech or trying to ovezealously correct biases in image generation - which is somewhat admirable.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Too bad Altman is as horrible and profit-motivated as any CEO. If the nonprofit part of the company had retained control, like with Firefox, rather than the opposite, ChatGPT might have eventually become a genuine force for good.

Now it's only a matter of time before the enshittification happens, if it hasn't started already 😮‍💨

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

The OP did manage to get an answer on an uncensored term "Nakba 2.0".

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 8 months ago

Meme CEO: "Quick, fire everyone! This magic computerman can make memes by itself!"

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[-] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 months ago

Bing Copilot is also clearly Zionist

[-] tccpdi@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

No generative AI is to be trusted as long as it's controlled by organisations which main objective is profit. Can't recommend enough Noam Chomsky take on this: https://chomsky.info/20230503-2/

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

It is likely because Israel vs. Palestine is a much much more hot button issue than Russia vs. Ukraine.

Some people will assault you for having the wrong opinion in the wrong place about the former, and that is press Google does not want to be able to be associated with their LLM in anyway.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

It is likely because Israel vs. Palestine is a much much more hot button issue than Russia vs. Ukraine.

It really shouldn't be, though. The offenses of the Israeli government are equal to or worse than those of the Russian one and the majority of their victims are completely defenseless. If you don't condemn the actions of both the Russian invasion and the Israeli occupation, you're a coward at best and complicit in genocide at worst.

In the case of Google selectively self-censoring, it's the latter.

that is press Google does not want to be able to be associated with their LLM in anyway.

That should be the case with BOTH, though, for reasons mentioned above.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I agree. You can't have civilians being slaughtered anywhere. Everyone has lost their fucking minds with mental gymnastics. It's all bad. There are no excuses. Nothing to do with politics, defense spending, feelings, whataboutisms... All genocide and war is bad.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 26 points 8 months ago

Corporate AI will obviously do all the corporate bullshit corporations do. Why are people surprised?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I'd expect it to stay away from any conflict in this case, not pick and choose the ones they like.

It's the same reason many people are pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of people and news outlets that stood with Ukraine being oppressed but find the Palestinians being oppressed very "complicated".

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

This is why Wikipedia needs our support.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Bad news, Wikipedia is no better when it comes to economic or political articles.

The fact that ADL is on Wikipedia's "credible sources" page is all the proof you need.

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[-] DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

You didn't ask the same question both times. In order to be definitive and conclusive you would have needed ask both the questions with the exact same wording. In the first prompt you ask about a number of deaths after a specific date in a country. Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict. In the second prompt you simply asked if there had been any deaths in the start of the conflict; Giving the name of the conflict this time. I am not defending the AI's response here I am just pointing out what I see as some important context.

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[-] xor 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Does it behave the same if you refer to it as "the war in Gaza"/"Israel-Palestine conflict" or similar?

I wouldn't be surprised if it trips up on making the inference from Oct 7th to the (implicit) war.

Edit: I tested it out, and it's not that - formatting the question the same for Russia-Ukraine and Israel-Palestine respectively does still yield those results. Horrifying.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Did you try it again? Many times ai responds differently from one moment to the next.

[-] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Because google is supplying military grade tech services to Israel.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile in the bingilator:

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[-] 0nekoneko7@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

unbiased AI my ass. more like hypocrite AI.

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