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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I refuse to believe this is real simply because I don't want to live in a world where someone actually did this.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

This goes around every now and then. Pretty sure it's fake.

[-] ugh@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

It's a joke. Apparently the humor is lost on many.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can buy something like that in Japan. So some people in the world do this regularly. But the chickens they use for it are raised in a clean environment, so they unlikely have salmonella.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 19 points 2 years ago

That's not even rare that's raw 🤮

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago

It’s not even raw, it’s fake.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

That ain't medium rare.

That being said, if you raise your own chickens, you could cook medium rare. I've had chicken that was done to medium and medium rare, and it isn't as weird as you'd think.

That being said, it isn't my preferred thing, and my chickens are pets lol.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Chickens are friends that make breakfast and eat all the bugs!

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I mean, she IS gonna lose weight on that diet.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

She had a terrible night that’s for sure

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I've learned about chicken sushi in Japan and watched a guy eat an entire raw chicken breast on YouTube. This is nothing.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 32 points 2 years ago

It's crazy how if you raise chickens in a sanitary situation they don't all have salmonella.

Wait, no it isn't crazy.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Even if they didn't, I still would not eat raw chicken.

[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Humans are literally the only animals who don't eat raw meat, and even then we routinely make exceptions. How come you're too good for raw chicken?

[-] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago
[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I probably phrased this poorly or something, but I am curious. Even though we have fire, people still eat steak tartare. Loads of animals eat raw birds without suffering any negative effects. How come people are so against eating raw birds (when raised in a way that makes salmonella very unlikely)?

People eat raw flour and eggs all the time and those also have a good chance of giving you salmonella. Hell touching a turtle can give you salmonella but people still touch turtles.

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

It's not really that common to eat steak tartare is it? Bit of a niche thing, I certainly wouldn't prepare it myself at home.

Saying "other animals do X so we should be fine doing X" is a daft argument, they have different biochemistry and they don't kill stuff and leave it in the fridge for a couple of weeks before eating it.

I don't know if you've ever had bad food poisoning before, but let me tell you it is 100% not worth it.

[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think comparing humans to other animals is that daft, otherwise animal testing wouldn't be as common as it is. And I don't think most people leave steak tartare or ceviche or sashimi or carpaccio etc. in their fridge for weeks before eating it.

And I was originally asking why someone would be against raw chicken that had been raised in a way that prevented salmonella being likely at all.

I really just don't understand the innate opposition? Humans and other animals eat fresh raw meat all the time, why not birds?

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I think we're talking about slightly different things.

What I'm saying is that there's a practical reason why people don't eat raw chicken, to do with the risk to their health.

In my experience people don't make steak tartare at home AT ALL because of the risk of food poisoning, let alone eating raw chicken. We eat cooked meat often because it's easy to store it and prepare it safely. Raising chickens in a more sanitary way is obviously better regardless of whether you're then going to eat the meat raw or not, but I don't think it would be enough on its own to make raw chicken safe enough for people to eat safely, you'd also have to change the supply chain and maybe train chefs preparing the food to keep it safe.

As things stand I'm not completely opposed to eating raw chicken and might try it in a controlled setting but I'd never eat it at home.

Interesting related side note: after the UK left the EU there was a big debate about whether we would accept chlorine washed chicken imported from the US (answer: hell no). Food poisoning from chicken is way more common in the US than here due to different animal welfare and food preparation standards, but that doesn't mean I'm cool with routinely eating raw chicken in the UK.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Eating wild meat is a gamble. Pretty sure that's why we mostly stick to eating herbivores. That's also why wild caught fish must be frozen, to kill any parasites they may have.

Things get cooked for a variety of reasons. Avoiding sickness is one, but I think most of us agree that cooked food tastes better. Even if I wouldn't get sick from eating raw food is still cook it.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Because it's processed in a way that makes it extremely likely to be contaminated

https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/s/bgFqlOuNIc

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[-] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, mainly carnivorous animals tend to eat raw meat.

Humans evolved from herbivores and our intestinal tract is still not suited for killing parasites and harmful bacteria present in animal bodies, which is why we delegated part of our digestion to process organic material outside of the body (cooking). Whereas carnivores have high saliva and stomach acidity to digest raw meat, on top of a short and smooth intestine tract for a quick pass through so there's less chance of parasites staying around.

We have none of those carnivorous features, and therefore eating any raw meat is a substantial risk, especially animal bodies with a high likelihood of salmonella contamination. Even when meat is cooked it seems to have negative effects on our long term health, such as increased chance of cardiovascular disease and digestion related cancers.

[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

I'm vegan btw so I'm right there with you. I'm just curious about why people seem to like some raw meat but not others, even if there was little chance of salmonella. Everyone just kept telling me that you'd get salmonella for some reason.

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[-] losttourist@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Why not? What's different about chicken meat compared to, say, beef or lamb, which most people like to cook so it remains at least a little bit pink (i.e. raw inside).

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Raw chicken has a really nasty texture

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Even in Japan, where you can eat chicken sashimi, it's a problem and the government doesn't recommend eating it. The way chicken is processed is to blame: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/s/bgFqlOuNIc

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The texture and taste.

Also pink isn't raw.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't like raw beef either. I've had tartar before and it's not for me.

I do like medium rare steaks but that's not the same.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago

I've eaten it. I don't care for the texture. Never made me sick. I've had chicken with just the outside seared a few times here and been fine, but never order it.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

This is fake, of course.

She didn't make it, it's a specialty raw chicken sashimi called torisashi, and these chickens are raised specifically to be eaten raw.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 years ago

I heard somewhere that 90% of the salmonella is on the outside so if you just cook the outside you're fine. If that's true these strips are fine.

[-] bradboimler@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

Sadly this could have actually happened that is the scary part some real person would actually do this.

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

People eat raw fish, raw beef and even raw pork, so raw chicken shouldn't really be a surprise

[-] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I mean what were they thinking calling it SALMONella though. Very confusing.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

These people vote..

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

you should never interfere with animals in their natural habitat

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