So... She's admitting he broke the law?
A pardon is essentially that. But only literally in the case of a conviction. You can issue blanket pardons which basically say "if you did something, you are pardoned". These do not have the direct acknowledgement of guilt but it's obviously heavily implied.
These don't side-step prosecution though, just the sentence if found guilty, correct?
Well don't think there's a point prosecuting someone (i.e. spending insane amounts of taxpayer money) if, in the end, you achieve "nothing", in terms of punishment.
There might still be indirect punishment in terms of a hit to public image but eh
I feel like in a high profile case like this the prosecutor would still want to prosecute. If for nothing more than to help make a name for themselves. Of course it's likely that some funding for such a trial would be taken away after the pardon was issued. It would be an interesting states rights issue though. Can a president pardon someone for a state level crime? I think the consensus is no, but I'm not a lawyer so I wouldn't really know.
The governor of said state pardons for state crimes
Nikki Haley: Cool with treason.
Cool with treason committed by Republicans.
Really it's the Democrats fault. If they'd just been Republicans this never would have happened. -s
Well, I blame the Republicans. The Democrats are trying to become Republicans, but the Republicans keep running farther right so fast the Democrats can't catch up.
Isn't the majority of US power cool with treason (at least so far)?
He is a free man some 4 years later, and he isn't likely to face the consequence of not being allowed for president even
Yep. She's not an alternative to Trump. She's just a Trump clone with better make-up and more stylish heels. Same for Ron Desantis. I don't think Ramaswamy wore heels, otherwise the same could be said about him.
Great visual of DeSantis in heels now. ;)
No need to visualize it. If you've seen him, he was wearing heels.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/31/desantis-boots-shoemakers-00121044
How dare you say DeSantis heels aren’t stylish.
she would pardon him to unify America.
What she means is that she would do it to placate Trumps dangerous cult. There are a thousand things republicans could do if they really cared about "unity" but letting a racist piece of trash criminal like Trump off the hook isn't one of them.
Yeah this action would do the opposite of uniting me with them lol
She's trying to position herself for Vice President candidate since it's becoming clear she can't win the primary.
Trump already said she would never pick Nancy Pelosi to be his VP.
I don't understand this comment in this context.
Edit: thanks for explaining!
His cognitive decline has caused him to constantly mix up names.
Thanks for explaining!
Np!
"Law and order". My ass.
To conservatives the meaning of law and order is simple but not the same as it is for Liberals or Social Dems. For conservatives law exists to maintain the order of existing social hierarchies and to bind the people into those hierarchies. It binds women below men by stripping them of bodily autonomy, it binds black people below white people by stripping them of their vote then criminalizing protest, it goes on and on like this and becomes painfully obvious once we learn to see it for what it is.
I get what you're saying. But I still take a little bit of issue with it. Conservatives don't have a special definition of law and order. They are using law and order as it was intended. I think liberals etc. Have a false impression of what it was ever supposed to be. Laws absolutely can be and often are unjust. The order almost undoubtedly always is corrupt. And the laws are specifically to preserve the order. Nothing else.
What you want. What any good person should want. Is justice and peace. Things we aren't really allowed to have. All because of law and order. So I ask you, what good is law and order? Give it some consideration. I think you will come to a similar conclusion. Justice even if it's a threat to the order is necessary for meaningful peace. And laws don't bring justice.
What can she say? She loves demented rapists.
If she wins and pardons Trump ... Trump, IMHO, would have her assassinated and try to take over the government. Again.
How can she not see that ?
I mean, if I were running I'd absolutely say in public that I'd pardon him if he were to drop out. Then I absolutely would not pardon him after I won.
"Feckless cunt" was the phrase I recall
"Unify America" my ass. That's not what this move would do.
Elect me and I will pardon your new lord and savior. I got his back! (Wink) À la Jeb: Please clap.
trash woman
She can't pardon the state crimes. That would take a governor.
Not in Georgia. They have a pardon and parole board, and without getting into the weeds, there is no way to escape incarceration through a pardon in GA.
The same board does have the power to commute sentences, though.
Aid and comfort.
I hope her word is as good as his word was when it came to the Jan 6th rioters.
You're assuming she will ever be president.
Any time they talk about not looking back but looking forward "“We’ve got to leave the negativity and the baggage behind", it means -I'll forgive them for what they did in hopes the people that come after me will forgive me in the same way.
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