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[-] crowsby@kbin.social 84 points 1 year ago

For reference, that's 31.5% of all House Republicans. Another way to see it is that 68.5% of House Republicans, which are generally the most extreme breed of Republican, are supportive of US military aid to Ukraine. I'm pleasantly surprised to find support for Ukraine remaining that high.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And in early 2015, what percentage of Republicans openly supported Trump? How many of them voted to impeach him? How many of them voted to impeach the second time?

Make no mistake - this is extremely alarming and you should wake up. I legitimately can't believe I even have to type this comment out. We are so fucked.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

I got to hand it to the Russians. Their disinformation campaigns against the US finally worked.

The GOP has had a long history of supporting their figureheads at all cost, so all it took was getting in bed with one of them. Once Trump was associated with Russia, the whole party and media apparatus became pro Russia.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

They didn't just pay trump, they paid a lot of them...

It doesn't cost much in campaign donations to buy a politician, especially a House republican.

Could be as cheap as 5-10k for both primary leaders.

If they take it and win, Russia now has blackmail on them.

That's practically nothing to another country.

[-] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget when both Democratic and Republican parties servers were hacked back in 2015. Things were leaked from the Democrats, but nothing came out on the Republicans. Nice to have that info hanging over their heads…

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They’ve been working for years, arguable since the run up to the 2016 elections when they started becoming active in Trump and Sanders communities online

[-] Wookie_the_Ewok@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

Serious question...Why are these Republicans so pro-Russia? I don't get it.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

Because they envy Putin's oligarchy and the nationalism of the Russian population which makes them easy to control.

Make no mistake - these people want Gilead more than anything. I mean they literally keep saying it over and over again. They are domestic terrorists and enemies of the west. And everyone is going to pretend like this is a "difference of opinion" until it is too late.

[-] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Own the libs

[-] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

What about Russia would they dislike?

[-] Shikadi@wirebase.org 25 points 1 year ago

Well they're always yelling about how liberals are socialist or communist, and Russia was previously socialist and communist. Also they say they don't like government to control things, and the Russian government controls everything. They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored, while all Russian media is state sponsored. So yeah, you would think they wouldn't like Russia, but only if you thought they actually believe the shit they say.

[-] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

and Russia was previously socialist and communist

The current Russian regime uses heavy Anti-Soviet messaging, and demonizes socialism as much as American conservative politics. The USSR wasn't great for a lot of Russians.

Also they say they don't like government to control things

I think emphasis here needs to be on "they say", yet most non-economic policy American conservatives tout (aka the culture wars) is about injecting more government intervention in the day to day lives of Americans. Ex: Christian Prayer in schools, banning books from libraries, anti-drag bills, banning racial-inequality education, anti-gay legislation, the list goes on and on. American conservatives would love as much control over their population as Russia exerts on theirs.

They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored

Which fits their narrative, when in reality NPR only receives around 5% of government funding. They don't like NPR because they aren't easily able to be bought due to being largely crowd funded and won't immediately parrot their talking points. They would love a state funded media company that parroted their talking points which Fox News comfortably does.

If American conservatives actually believed the their talking points then yes they would be vehemently anti-Russian, but they don't. They're only pro-power which the Russian government has figured out within their borders.

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[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Money. There's no way Russia/rich people/criminals aren't playing with these people. My conspiracy is that these people are so dumb they don't know that they are being used or they are just really narcissistic.

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[-] boy@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

They’re probably just not getting a piece of all that laundered money from the US defense contractors

[-] zephyrvs@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Because they think it's a stupid proxy war that doesn't serve the US (because it strengthens BRICS which hurts the Petro Dollar) and that US support for Ukraine is a ploy to ensure that supposed US funded biolabs (that are pretty much confirmed to exist, afaik) aren't uncovered, because Joe and Hunter Biden are likely to be involved in them via the company Metabiota.

I'm as irritated as everyone else because it's usually not the Republicans to be the sane ones but it seems the Democrats are even more corrupt nowadays. The FBI is actively trying to suppress evidence of bribery of a sitting President and it's even denying answering Congress (or Senate? Not 100% sure which one, I'm not an American) inquiries.

The world has gone mad.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Wow. Everything you just said was wrong. This war has empowered NATO and the US more than every action taken by the US in the last 20 years combined. The biolabs theory is a joke as is the idea that a republican FBI director appointed by Trump would protect Biden. I always hear about how non Americans have a better perspective on US news, but deluded misinfo like this makes me believe that idea is bullshit.

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[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is your brain on lead dust.

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[-] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago

70 people admit they should be investigated for high treason

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

So you believe that Ukraine is a puppet state of the US?

[-] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago
[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

It follows rather directly. For it to be high treason to be against sending more military resources to Ukraine would mean that either the representatives are members of the Ukrainian government or, as was implied here, that Ukraine is a puppet state.

It's not high treason against the USA to be against the USA sending military resources to another country. You can only commit high treason against your own country.

[-] McBinary@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're willfully dancing around the actual point OP is making. You can't be a grown adult and think this concretely without doing so in bad faith.

The point is that opposing this is directly showing support for Russia...

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is that opposing this is directly showing support for Russia…

Which guess what: isn't high treason. If you'll notice, I havent offered my opinion here or participated elsewhere in the thread.

I was simply pointing out that using the term "high treason" here is rather silly and nonfactual.

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[-] Pacifist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Womp womp go fuck yourself.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

What a psychotic statement.

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[-] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Too many of them are beholden to Russia and its interests and have been for some time. Not only that, but also just doing the opposite of whatever Democrats support which isn’t constructive at all.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republican policies boil down to

  • Opposing "the commies";
  • Guns.

Wait. How did they end up in bed with Russia?

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

You forgot “anti-woke”

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But I said opposing th---

AH, you're right.

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[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Sure it is constructive. The billionaires' main goal is to DDos the system and limit time and resources devoted to legitimate legislation. The goal is to keep the US extremely under legislated so their corrupt loopholes stay open. The nonsense is irrelevant. The time it takes to deal with the nonsense is all that maters.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago

Remember when a certain senator stood before the house with two blank pieces of paper and said most democrats supported Russia?

[-] JoeyJoJoJuniour@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Remember when a certain republican said that Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat facing America and all the Democrats laughed at him?

[-] Shikadi@wirebase.org 6 points 1 year ago

I actually don't remember that, who was it?

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[-] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 21 points 1 year ago

Great! Surely they'll cut funding to the US military too, right?

[-] DeadGemini@waveform.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. From an article about the debt ceiling bill that resumed student loan payments in June: "Some $886 billion will be spent on defense, according to the bill text."

That's an increase after a $858 billion defense bill passed in december

Biden's student loan forgiveness only would have cost $400 billion, but spending almost $2 trillion per year on ending people's lives is more important.

[-] RandallFlagg@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

70 house Republicans spread their cheeks for putin

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Good. Hopefully 200dems can join them.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't tell which is which anymore.

Just kiddin', I know what is happening. Republicans are losing control over their own party, this is good news for the next president election, the world is doomed if anyone like deSantis ends up becoming emperor.

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[-] DragonAce@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every time I see a picture of Matt Gaetz, I believe more and more that he truly is Butthead in the flesh. Now to decide which republican most favors Bevis.

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