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[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 213 points 1 year ago

I must admit, "Linux becomes the refuge of luddites" was never on any bingo card I could have conceived of for 202X.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 94 points 1 year ago

Huh? Isn't this about Microsoft changing out a button with a well established use, in order to take advantage of muscle memory and the unobservant?

Don't think it's much to do with people opposing technological advancement, but rather with opposing another company wanting to making a fool of them.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

If Linux Luddites could TELNET into Lemmy, they would be very angry with you!

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[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago
[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago

That's what made me refuse to use the Reddit official app before their API garbage. Every update was a gamble as to whether they'd try to make me spend money through muscle memory.

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[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 145 points 1 year ago

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

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[-] Geek_King@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago

I noticed this bullshit a few days ago on my Win 11 desktop! I found if you go check the settings of the start bar, you can hide the copilot icon in the lower right, and then there's a check box to enable the lower right hand corner to work as show desktop again. The functionality can be restore to exactly as it was, but what the hell were they thinking.

Enshitification, plain and simple.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I genuinely do not get the hype of integrating LLMs fucking everywhere. There are places it makes sense, like word processors and email clients. Then there are places it doesn't make sense, like as an aside in my desktop environment. No one's going to use it. It's Cortana all over again.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 123 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Switch to Linux!

As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you're just an annoying person.

People will keep using what works for them, be it Windows/Linux/MacOS even if with minor inconveniences. Same goes for browsers/services/etc...

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 58 points 1 year ago

"Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I'm not going to."

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[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 87 points 1 year ago
[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 28 points 1 year ago

"Hey I have a problem with my Samsung"

"Drop it and get an iPhone instead"

This is what you guys are like.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago

When people tell you to use Linux, they're not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your "show desktop" icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.

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[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

'Just switch to Linux' isn't a solution to a problem. It's a tired and lazy ass response that is frankly starting to make me dislike this place.

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[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I rarely see that,. But what I see all the time is Linux lovers being toxic fanboys trying to shove their "passion" down everyone's throat. Also, 99% of them being wrong about what it can "offer".

Its a pure superiority complex fanbase.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Complaining about Linux and Linux users happens in every Windows-related thread, and you are doing it right now.

As a slight aside I am also sooo tired of people calling talking about something "shoving down our throats". People talking about someone you don't care for is not physically assaulting you. That expression seems to exist solely for people to wind themselves up over stuff that absolutely doesn't justify that level of outrage.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It's not like we don't know it exists, we don't need constantly reminding that it's an option.

Although it isn't an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don't run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It's tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well maybe stop suggesting that the solution to every tiny little cosmetic inconvenience is to completely switch operating systems to one that has notoriously flakey hardware support.

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[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

Wow, Microsoft are always so innovative! I never thought that the Win11 taskbar could get any shittier, but somehow they managed it. It's great to see those thousands of engineers being put to good use.

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[-] Breve@pawb.social 94 points 1 year ago

Everyone: Don't say anything sensitive or personal to an AI because it could end up in training data!

Microsoft: We're making it easier to feed everything you do on your computer to an AI from notepad to your desktop!

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[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 83 points 1 year ago

just switched to Linux for the first time this week!

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 year ago

... You guys might shit on it, but that's incredibly smart on their part. Ten years or more of that button being there and now suddenly something else replaces it, just imagine the amount of people accidentally hitting the button and being introduced to copilot. This was a very deliberate change.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

It's Smart as in, MLM scheme smart. Not honorable, just smart. Like a thief that is clever about not leaving fingerprints.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 31 points 1 year ago

That's exactly why we shit on it

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[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Linux exists people, without copilot using your information for training data and if you game, has Valve releasing updates like crazy for proton making it easier and easier to use Linux for gaming. The only thing I use Windows for is GeForce now as the windows and Mac apps are the only way for me to play 1440p 120fps with their service.

Good beginner distros: pop_os, Ubuntu, Linux mint, Nobara or fedora, Garuda, Manjaro, solus, zorin. The possibilities are really endless. Just take your pick, make a bootable USB and try it out.

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[-] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Windows Key+D

Press it again to restore all apps to foreground.

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[-] learningduck@programming.dev 58 points 1 year ago

Just press windows+d bro.

I forgot that the button exists.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Win+d also redirects to copilot

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

I hope that's a joke or else I'm gonna be so mad

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Nah, obviously you launch Copilot with Ctrl+C.

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[-] Aatube@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can still re-enable it in the taskbar settings. Personally I like asking an AI to do stuff, so I like the Copilot icon in my taskbar, BUT NOT ON THE FREAKING BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER GODDAMMIT THAT'S FOR LIKE NOTIFICATIONS
AND NOW NOTIFICATIONS GO OVER COPILOT BUT NOT QUICK SETTINGS FOR SOME REASON AND IF YOU BRING UP QUICK SETTINGS IT SHIFTS TO THE LEFT AND HIDES NOTIFICATIONS??
at least I won't accidentally hide my desktop while clicking copilot in a place where it shouldn't have been
except oh no signing in to unlock copilot doesn't even fucking work

time to grind on my giant arch migration checklist and hunt for a good foobar2000 alternative which i'll likely never finish

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

They're signaling that you don't need a desktop anymore, only chat bot. Your device will be a kiosk where you ask Microsoft for favours.

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 year ago

Maybe stop telling people what OS to use? Even if I would have ever considered switching to linux, its users are so god damn annoying that I would never do so now

[-] summerof69@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

I would never do so now

Oh no... We'll never recover from this. In Russian we say: "назло маме отморожу уши". In English that translates to "to spite my mom, I'll freeze my ears off." This expression is used to describe a situation where someone does something harmful or foolish to themselves in an attempt to rebel against or annoy someone else, despite the action being against their own best interests.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Maybe stop telling people what comment to post? Even if I would have ever considered posting something else, this reply is so god damn annoying that I'm going to post a linux comment now.

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[-] Kawi@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

I'm so glad I switched to linux

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

Typical capitalist race to the bottom to appease investors with short term decision making

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago
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[-] Soggytoast@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 offers nothing better than Windows 10, but there's a few key things that don't work as good/bugged on win11 for me. Should have not updated I think

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[-] otter@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

I guess they figured out where people clicked a lot and put the button there?

Looking forward to the Google search trends for "disable copilot"

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[-] 13617@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

LMAO?? HOW TO GET ME TO NEVER USE IT

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