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[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 87 points 1 year ago
[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 28 points 1 year ago

"Hey I have a problem with my Samsung"

"Drop it and get an iPhone instead"

This is what you guys are like.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago

When people tell you to use Linux, they're not telling you that to solve your immediate problem (e.g. your "show desktop" icon has been replaced with a different icon), but they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft, because that is the real problem: Microsoft does not respect you, the end-user of their product, and this kind of abusive shit will keep happening for as long as you keep using Windows.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Who asked you for help with our relationship? I believe someone complained about a random feature change. And here you are. Telling everyone to just fuck off and switch completely. It’s insane.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

JFC people like you ... You have like the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I've ever seen. I swear the only reason you are getting so angry and defensive when people recommend Linux is because deep down you know they're speaking the truth.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 8 points 1 year ago

they are telling you to get out of your abusive relationship with Microsoft

And how well has that worked so far?

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago

For people like me who took that advice: pretty damn great actually, thanks for asking!

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 8 points 1 year ago

How many people have you managed to convert in this thread?

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago

Even if it's only one, I will have helped one person, unlike you who has only been bitching and moaning.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 9 points 1 year ago

If that's what you think will improve how the Linux community is perceived, then do go on.

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[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Me! Switched to fedora from Windows about 3 years ago and don't regret it one bit. Probably the best decision I've made in regards to personal computing in my adult life.

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[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

More like:

“Hey I have a problem with my Samsung”

"Here's a custom ROM you can install instead" (but also glosses over a lot of the finer decisions that go into whether or not to choose to run a custom ROM)

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Nah, I switched to Linux last year and it cost me $0. No new hardware needed. So not a good metaphor.

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[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux isn't a solution if you play competitive multiplayer games, which most people do.

Edit: keep being classy basement trolls, you're only proving my statements about the shittiness of the linux community with every downvote.

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

What??? Do you have a statistic on this like does most of the population of earth play call of street fortnite 20 or whatever "competitively"?

I think you are confusing "professionally" and "competitively". Anyone playing to win is being competitive.

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[-] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm upvoting you because I know what you're trying to say. Personally I don't have a lot of time to game anymore but I vote with my wallet and I try to only buy games on steam that are linux native. I have found a lot of great indy games this way and I don't feel like I'm "missing out". Still, I get it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

which most people do.

Lolwhut?

Most people who play competitive multiplayer games (a minority of total users) do so on console

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

Your solution isn't a solution though it's like saying that the solution to drowning is to set yourself on fire. It's just a different kind of problem.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago

No it isn't.

It's more like saying: if that guy you hang out with keeps pushing you into the water and you almost drown every time, perhaps you should stop hanging out with that guy.

Of course, that's not what people who are in an abusive relationship typically want to hear.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I don't think this meme applies here. The person who's mad isn't the one using Windows. They got mad about a "problem" someone else was having and decided to use it as an excuse to push Linux.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The Linux bros are not offering a solution. They are the same people as the “just move” people. Annoying ass trolls.

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[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

'Just switch to Linux' isn't a solution to a problem. It's a tired and lazy ass response that is frankly starting to make me dislike this place.

[-] shiftymccool@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

When "this lemon is too sour" is the problem, maybe "here, try this orange" is the solution. Can you imagine responding like "No! People are always talking about oranges! I'm sick of it and won't try one!" Ridiculous...

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trying an orange is a lot easier than creating a boot USB, copying all your files over to an external hard drive, installing a new OS, fixing weird things like the graphics card having crap performance or the laptop screen brightness not dimming, learning the weird 3 letter file structure, being bogged down by apt-get vs snaps vs flatpak and adding repos (why not search and download an .exe like a normal OS), realizing that your more specialized programs don’t work, etc.

Besides, it’s not just ONE person, seeming everyone says it every time a lemon has a scratch or a blemish or too many seeds. And then they dramatize it by calling it an “abusive relationship”.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Yup. I’m about over lemmy cause of this shit. Linux bros are worse than vegans.

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[-] FoxBJK@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

OK well if you're looking for the actual solution to the problem brought up in this thread..... here: https://i.imgur.com/nHEcFG2r.png

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[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I rarely see that,. But what I see all the time is Linux lovers being toxic fanboys trying to shove their "passion" down everyone's throat. Also, 99% of them being wrong about what it can "offer".

Its a pure superiority complex fanbase.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Complaining about Linux and Linux users happens in every Windows-related thread, and you are doing it right now.

As a slight aside I am also sooo tired of people calling talking about something "shoving down our throats". People talking about someone you don't care for is not physically assaulting you. That expression seems to exist solely for people to wind themselves up over stuff that absolutely doesn't justify that level of outrage.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

It's shoving down throats when Linux is brought up in every single Windows discussion. The complaints about Linux are in response to Linux users never being able to just let it lie, people aren't just bitching in a void.

This is absolutely not people being mad for people just talking about something. I have an extremely hard time believing you truly believe that is the issue here.

There are countless places to discuss Linux without bringing it into the comments of every Windows post. Windows users are not commenting on every post in the Linux communities about how much more straightforward running Windows is.

It would be like vegan eaters commenting about how good it is to be vegan on every post in food communities that features non-vegan food.

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[-] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Fanbase because the philosophy is based on owning your computer. If some asshole you don't know needs your trust to run their closed-source-no-one-really-knows-what-it-actually does inside what is no longer really your computer just because you paid for it then here...here's a dum-dum. Hands you a sucker.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It's not like we don't know it exists, we don't need constantly reminding that it's an option.

Although it isn't an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don't run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It's tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

[-] Alborlin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Or how about

  1. You can't easily define what apps start with startup
  2. Even when wine is installed , lot of programs won't run in wine
  3. You cannot easily find where the program is installed like you can in windows
  4. You attach a external disk but some apps won't see it mounted making it Impossible to explore in their file picker , not all but some
  5. There is almost huge lack of programs , for which there is huge possibility that a windows program exists.
  6. There is constant need to use terminal for lot of things for which you can't a program see point 4.

I keep telling Linux is still not for common home use for users who are in between power users and people only using it for browsing. This will get me downvotes here on Lemmy all the time . Linux edge lords are their own bubble.

[-] icedterminal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All but one of your points here appear to be your lack of understanding Linux and/or user error. Point 4 (2) is understandable due to Windows just being the default and most popular choice.

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[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If Linux is not for you that's understandable. The thing here is that they are not having a conversation about Microsoft. They are having the pettiest, least technical possible discussion about Linux, it's devolving to pure clique shit talking.

If you want to talk about Microsoft, just talk about Microsoft.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 15 points 1 year ago

Problem is, whenever you try taking about Microsoft, someone just has to interject and be like "yeah you should be using Linux instead"

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well maybe stop suggesting that the solution to every tiny little cosmetic inconvenience is to completely switch operating systems to one that has notoriously flakey hardware support.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

I would say "notoriously flakey hardware support" is a false statement these days

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro's built-in update button completely trashed the system.

But it doesn't have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Ah yes notoriously flakey hardware support. Like Microsoft doesn't used it to power their entire cloud platform. The hardware support argument is dying tbh used to be true about 20 years ago

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nope, still true of the last time I tried Linux last year. The sound system stopped working after every reboot, and clicking the distro's built-in update button completely trashed the system.

But it doesn't have an AI button in the corner, so I guess that solves my problem!

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[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Fuck linux, the've had 30 years to make a consumer grade product but NoooOOooo all the devs spend their energy making 50 different weakly compatible distros that no one needs.

I'll say it again, fuck linux. Fuck linux and its shitty community of elitist basement trolls.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 19 points 1 year ago

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people spam "USE LINOOX INSTEAD!"

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Lol holy persecution complex, batman... This is a thread shitting on Windows.

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[-] uSpetzWon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It happens because Linux users are like vegans. They can't shut up about it. And they don't realize that using Linux doesn't make them special or a member of some cool club nor does it mean that they have any friends.

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