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[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 104 points 9 months ago

That's insurmountable hypocrisy. Just zero self-awareness.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago

That's pretty much islam in a nutshell.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 87 points 9 months ago
[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Especially sex cults! Mostly because I'm not invited.

[-] BumbleBeeButt@lemmy.zip 25 points 9 months ago

I include all the cults of Abraham in this.

[-] Granite@kbin.social 77 points 9 months ago

So by this logic, it’s totally fine to “defile” someone who isn’t Muslim? Wtf.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 54 points 9 months ago

It's just that the man when buying sex is not (as much) sinning, but the woman who allows him to buy sex is very much sinning.

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Ah, religion.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

not (as much) sinning

So like, is it just his cock and balls that go to hell?

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

You ever see an angel with a dick?

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 months ago

Unclean hooers.

[-] uriel238 29 points 9 months ago

There's a lot of this in Abrahamic scripture. The nice treatment of slaves, for instance, only applies to fellow Israelites who sell themselves into servitude. Non-Israelites can be bought, sold, kept forever, bred (and their kids are slaves too), and even killed with impunity.

Biblical scholar Dan McClellan notes that people from every age have to negotiate with sacred texts to affirm the ethos of their time and explain away those parts that don't work anymore. And this is true with all religions whether Jewish, Hellenic, Wotanic, Shinto or whatever.

So yes, in Islam, sex work is haram until it isn't.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I remember when Dan said that yelling at the podcast "hey you don't have to do anything. Just admit the texts are garbage and there is no god."

It is so so much easier knowing that I will never have to explain away slavery again.

[-] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's literally in their book, it's not even rape. let alone wrong at all, if the victim isn't Muslim, with a small exception for married women regardless of faith.

[-] Lightdm@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Could you point me to where it is in the quran?

[-] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Quran 2:223 & 65:4, and the Hadith Qudsi.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I looked at the verses you mentioned, and did not find what you’re stating. Also, HQ is not a verse per se, as far as I can tell from looking it up.

[-] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago
[-] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Unreliable source, have you read it? The evidence they cite for their interpretation of the Quran has nothing to do with the content therein.

[-] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm starting to feel you know and just don't like it. Which is fair, it's kinda awful.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No I don’t know, so I could be wrong. I am not making any claims about being a religious scholar or learned in this. But just reading what’s written in those verses and comparing it against the text of the wiki, I can’t logically make the connection between the interpretation and the source material. Anyway, I wouldn’t worry about proving your point, religious texts (especially of the Abrahamic variety) have been ruining lives since their inception. Hopefully we can move on as a society while condemning people who rely on religious texts to persecute or subjugate.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Well if course. The other tribes are humans but not people. This is pretty freaken universal for conservatives everywhere.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

You're looking for logic in the wrong place

[-] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 40 points 9 months ago

Ah, yes. The degree of sin is inversely congruent to the length of your clitoris.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Then why do they paint and sculpt angels with tiny pps

[-] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Pps, clits, same difference biologically speaking.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 9 months ago

Classic Abrahamic reasoning.

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 29 points 9 months ago

nah from what i read their prophet started out declaring 3 women to be the right legit amount and when getting older he increased the number. like the pervert that guy was, his followers now are.

[-] optissima@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago
[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_Islam

If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), Ayah 3[1]

so you start out with 2, 3 or 4 and then proceed to have at least 9 wives.

[-] optissima@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How does this indicate that he changed it as he aged?

Reading through the page...

Noteworthy was the fact that it was customary for men to marry women without limit, a practice that ended with the advent of the Qur'an and its divine revelation.

So it increased as he aged but it was bigger before?

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

the quran, you absolute fuckwit

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm sensing some hostility. You good (unreasona-)bro?

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

This hypocrisy is not an Islam or Muslim issue or unique to this religion. Racists like pretending otherwise, and then justifying genocide in Palestine.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

First sentence: 10/10, this comment is going someplace good.

Second Sentence: how did we get to Palestine? What happened?

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Sorry! I kinda made a leapt because that’s the kind of rhetoric I see around. Maybe unneeded in this case.

[-] NoFun4You@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Just one more baby, that'll teach Hamas

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Prostitutes are going to hell anyway, so might as well fuck 'em."

Also, "I'm still pure, I'm not the one who's female while selling my trade." this is how the goddamned Middle Ages remain among us. Lazy mindless hypocrisy.
Both monetizing their bodies, yet somehow this asshole is above it all, sees it fit to preach at the end, probably drove off with a smug superiority on one hand, on the other that inescapable self-hatred bubbling mighty close to the surface, post-orgasm. They know there's something wrong, and they zeroed in on the wrong thing while yelling "Mary had a little lamb little lamb little lamb".

It's like in that John Waters film Pecker, when some kid gets caught with no pants at a gay bar - "Mom, I'm not queer! Queers blow me! I'm still straight!"

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 9 months ago

he said between bites of his McRib

[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago
[-] multicolorKnight@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

What I want to know is: did he have sex with her anyway?

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yes. As it would turn out, they both had a ~~punishment~~ hell kink, so this exchange only got them more excited ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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