platform bias is real, folks. i’ve had lots of the lemmy F’s since i’ve been here.

As a Reddit user who's recently moved to Lemmy - that's a fair point, you fucking moron

That's quite a fair point.

I think the reason behind that is that it's a new place and people are shy in new environments. Not only they behave more cautious but they lurk more (which leads to more lurking by others).

Did you get that you fucking moron?

I hope Lemmy moves past this phase of directly measuring itself in every way, real and imagined, against Reddit. Doesn't seem like a healthy way to start the community. We need our own identity if we ever hope for this to take hold.

I'm wondering if it's the lurkers. Based on personal experience: I enjoyed Reddit from the sidelines for years--never made an account. Switch to Lemmy and few users means no conversation, so I figured I'd jump in. But it turns out I'm a pretty boring, literal, mild-mannered commenter. Nice, but no zing. I'm still kind of waiting for the banter.

I am absolutely trying my best to be friendly, tolerant and open minded here on Lemmy to set the tone for a growing culture here

Trust me the extreme Redditors are here now too.

Now we just have to keep this culture of respect, even if the platform gains popularity. Buckle up!

Everyone in this thread are fucking morons.

I am currently in the middle of a lengthy political argument with someone on c/politics, and we fundamentally disagree on things, but both of us are being cordial about it and I appreciate that.

that is a fair point

That hasn't been my experience.

It's still a very mixed reaction if you say something contrary to the dominant opinion.

And still just as likely to get strawmanned if you disagree with an aspect, but still overall agree with the conclusion.

The fediverse is far more open to the idea of being a "marketplace of ideas" .

That is what Reddit was before Spez got greedy and abandoned the liberal ideas that made Reddit great when Aaron Swartz was around.

Lets test this…

Abortion should be illegal because that would help population grow faster, leading to more cheap labor that would benefit everyone. It should also be illegal to be gay, because gay people cannot have children and all major companies need more workers. Gay people are also not as fun to joke with during lunch. Therefore having gay people in your company will decrease the productivity of your workers.

What steps did you take today to prevent the spread of gay and abortions?

I've encountered some rude people on Lemmy, but also a lot of people who love genuine discussion, helping others and want the best for the platform and communities.

I personally don’t really care what people decide to type at me on the internet. My issue and why I actually never moved past being a lurker on Reddit is when your social standing (IE: karma) is also tied to whims of the moment or people not understanding that disagreeing with someone doesn’t make their comments bad necessarily.

TBH I've seen (and engaged in) plenty of the latter on Lemmy too. The only place where I've seen such behavior actually banned was themotte

Just wait. The only reason why Lemmy is more polite is because it's smaller. I think that attitude comes with the territory, unfortunately. If you want to have a less toxic community, the first thing you need to do is get rid of the downvote button. Downvotes are inherently toxic. Lemmy is actually worse than reddit in this regard, because you can actually see the ratio of upvotes to downvotes. So, even if your comment has a high score, you can still feel shitty knowing that X number of people downvoted it.

At least the circlejerking was brought here intact...

Literally just re-uninstalled Reddit because some neanderthal (probably an insult to neanderthals) couldn't even argue properly without putting words in my mouth I never said or implied

I can't not agree with this.

So far my experience on Lemmy.world is more hostile than I was expecting. Very quick to downvote and troll here. Hoping I've only just had the misfortune of finding a lot of bad eggs quickly??????

With that short lived bit of nostalgia for cringy old meme formats I think it's also safe to say that this platform skews old.

Aren't a ton of Lemmy users from Reddit? That being said, I've had more positive interactions here than on Reddit, but I haven't been on Lemmy that long.

I'm sure we're going to see all sorts of behaviour here soon if we aren't already. The Reddit attitude I hope we avoid as much as possible is that pointlessly aggressive tone though. Not just in arguments but responses to posts from people who seem to have only just learnt the word fuck and use it to add an extra condescending slant to their weirdly celebrated rant about how someone misread a paper or something.