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submitted 1 year ago by Stamau123@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

The commander of the IDF's 98th Division said he would work on evacuation plans "if and when" he is told to launch an invasion.

A Hamas police vehicle was struck in Gaza's southern city of Rafah on Wednesday evening in what Palestinian media reported as a targeted assassination by the IDF.

According to the reports, Hamas police's special forces head, Majdi Abd al-Aal, was killed in the suspected attack.

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[-] philo@discuss.online 40 points 1 year ago

How cute, Hamas has police cars like they are actual government instead of terrorist assholes.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago

The place where 2 million people live has a government. Shock.

[-] philo@discuss.online 12 points 1 year ago

Did the people of Gaza appoint Hamas or did they waltz in at gunpoint?

[-] Arete@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

They elected them and in recent polling generally support them, especially for doing the October 7th attack

[-] philo@discuss.online 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, After Arafat died they were elected by a small election of something like 45 percent back in 2006. Since then, the "democratically" and "fairly" elected government that didn't even try to influence the election with any terroristic activity, has not held another election. Do you wonder why? As far as the people of Gaza supporting the Hamas attack on Israel, are you serious? They would support ANYBODY attacking Israel but then again, they would gladly accept any humanitarian aid from Israel also.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You forgot the part in 2006 when Fatah tried to overthrow the PA in a coup and Israel publicly took their side and armed them. Hamas repelled the coup attempt and there’s been multiple attempts at redoing the election but neither side trusts the other and Hamas is not going to let coup people run for election when they tried to overthrow a result they didn’t like.

[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

Fatah was the ruling party in 2006. learn history. Also, remember Hamas sided with Fatah in 2014 only to stab them in the back or did you forget about that?

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[-] philo@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago

If you think they weren't there well before 2006 with plenty of guns, you don't know history.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas wouldn't exist if there was no occupation

British Mandate Period:

Antisemitism in Islam

Antisemitism in the Arab World

The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948

Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928

1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag

Shaw Commission

Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937

1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE

Irgun and Lehi activity

What Hitler and the Grand Mufti Really Said: Time, Haaretz, WaPo

Yosef Weitz' unofficial Transfer Committee and the JNF. Which has dispossessed Palestinians to present day. 972mag, MEE, Haaretz

1948 to 1967:

Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres

Additional context of what was detailed in Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)

Arab League advocating for unified state 1948

1967 war Declassified

Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967

How the US became the ally of Israel

UK influence

Occupation:

Occupation and 50 years of dispossession

1st Intifada AJ, PBS, Haaretz

Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

2nd Intifada AJ, Haaretz

Gaza Blockade is Occupation

Dahiya Doctrine

Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)

Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court

Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners

Apartheid

Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)

Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, No freedom of movement, and also Water control

Gaza March for Return Protest

Palestinians lack civil rights

Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017

History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

AWRAD Gaza War Poll

PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023

History of peace process

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here

10 Myths of Israel

[-] philo@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago

Wrong, HAMAS formed in late 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada. Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Call it whatever you want but if there was never a Sayyid Qutub, there would never have been a Muslim Brotherhood, hence no Hamas.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas was an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, with sheikh yassin as the 'spiritual leader' in 1987. Those links go over the Intifada's and Hamas in detail.

The intifada was a massive protest against the occupation that was ongoing since 1967, so yes there would be no Hamas if there was no occupation.

The First Intifada was a largely spontaneous series of Palestinian demonstrations, nonviolent actions like mass boycotts, civil disobedience, Palestinians refusing to work jobs in Israel, and attacks (using rocks, Molotov cocktails, and occasionally firearms) on Israelis.

-PBS

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I gave up weeks ago. Same with the genocide Joe shit. I internalized acceptance this morning after hearing Biden #s in Nevada. Veeeery vocal and astroturfing minority on here. This place doesn't have the cultural identity I feel it purports.

[-] Ilgaz@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Hey Nazi Germany wouldn't exist if they liked or bought Hitler's art.

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[-] Arete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Of course they were, but they also won an election

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[-] Ilgaz@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Could decades of brainwashing be a factor of it?

Attack my ass, unarmed civilian massacre.

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[-] Jamil@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How cute, Israel calls itself a democracy while being an apartheid, eg. Laws that only apply to Palestinian citizens.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel has 'no plans' for minimizing Gazan casualties in Rafah

Israel has no concrete plans to minimize civilian deaths in Rafah in the case the IDF decides to launch an offensive into the southern Gaza city, CNN reported on Wednesday, citing a top Israeli military commander.

🤔

Isn't that Hamas police just above ground civilian patrol units? The picture is of a police car above ground. This does not look important

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[-] philo@discuss.online 20 points 1 year ago

Let me ask all you Hamas apologists a simple question, why won't the arab brothers next door to the Palestinians allow them refuge in Egypt?

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can I assume you are saying - since other countries refuse to accept them, it must be acceptable to commit genocide? How do you feel about the voyage of the damned (1939), where 937 mostly Jewish refugees were turned away in the Americas? All had to return to Europe, 255 died in the war, many in the death camps.

[-] philo@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago

I am asking specifically about one country and that is one with a shared border. The rest of your assumption is in your imagination.

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification. So it needs to be a neighbouring country which refuses entry. I wasn't able to find any evidence of neighbours of Nazi Germany preventing entry to Jewish refugees but it seems odd all these desperate Jews would travel across the Atlantic to Cuba in the hopes of getting into USA. Couldn't they go to Western Europe, be safe then continue to USA? Unless they were officially/unofficially not welcomed. All in my head and the Holocaust didn't happen in 1939 so nothing to worry about.

[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

You are a special type, aren't you? The Nazis had the Jews captive, but Hamas supposedly doesn't. Two different things. nice try though.

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

That ship left from Hamburg Germany. And why would Hamas need to keep Gazans captive in the largest open air prison in the world, maintained by Israel.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Wow IDF goes hard on lemmy lately.

[-] Ilgaz@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really? IMHO neither IDF or MOSSAD are doing their jobs. There can be some 11d chess they are playing but the fact is, HAMAS or Stormfront doesn't need their own social media while here exists,

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The dude I replied to is openly calling for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and receiving 11 upvotes. The amount of IDF troll accounts have increased over the last two weeks. This looks like a targeted campaign. I hope the moderators can get a grip and ban these people.

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[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Why should Palestinians leave the land they've been living on for centuries and become displaced refugees in another country?

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Seems that most Arab countries aim for two things

  1. Keep as much natives of Palestine in Palestine
  2. Not get nuked by a country that never faces actual repercussions (like how Russia and China get repercussions).
[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Because Egypt is a dictatorship that doesn’t care about Egyptians or Palestinians. The general sisi accepted billions of dollars in bribes and therefore does what the US and Saudi want. (Saudi doesn’t like Hamas because they view it as related to Muslim Brotherhood and thus a threat to their monarchy)

But nice try trying to engage in Whataboutism.

[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Because they don't want to deal with a refuge crisis.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a question to ask in the context of a genocide.

I'm sure you've got some interesting notions - why don't they?

I'm guessing it's the Palestinians' fault they're being genocided and can't be displaced into Egypt?

[-] adoth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you realise that the Nazis used the same wording for jewish people ? Asking other countries to take jewish people as refugees to get them out of Nazi controlled territories. Are you seriously using the same tactic as the Nazis right now to kick Palestinians out of their homes ?

[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

If I was either in Gaza or in Israel you might have a point but I'm here on Lemmy asking a question and you are using your imagination on overdrive.

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[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Who is a Hamas apologist ?

[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

You haven't seen any posts here defending Hamas?

[-] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Hey they hit an actual target this time!

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[-] LemonLord@endlesstalk.org 7 points 1 year ago

The photo suggests IDF should be a kind of police. Manipulation at it's best.💔

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