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The commander of the IDF's 98th Division said he would work on evacuation plans "if and when" he is told to launch an invasion.

A Hamas police vehicle was struck in Gaza's southern city of Rafah on Wednesday evening in what Palestinian media reported as a targeted assassination by the IDF.

According to the reports, Hamas police's special forces head, Majdi Abd al-Aal, was killed in the suspected attack.

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[-] philo@discuss.online 6 points 1 year ago

I am asking specifically about one country and that is one with a shared border. The rest of your assumption is in your imagination.

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification. So it needs to be a neighbouring country which refuses entry. I wasn't able to find any evidence of neighbours of Nazi Germany preventing entry to Jewish refugees but it seems odd all these desperate Jews would travel across the Atlantic to Cuba in the hopes of getting into USA. Couldn't they go to Western Europe, be safe then continue to USA? Unless they were officially/unofficially not welcomed. All in my head and the Holocaust didn't happen in 1939 so nothing to worry about.

[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

You are a special type, aren't you? The Nazis had the Jews captive, but Hamas supposedly doesn't. Two different things. nice try though.

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

That ship left from Hamburg Germany. And why would Hamas need to keep Gazans captive in the largest open air prison in the world, maintained by Israel.

[-] philo@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And why would Hamas need to keep Gazans captive in the largest open air prison in the world, maintained by Israel.

let's see if I understand this. The Gaza Strip is bordered by Israel on two sides, Egypt on one side, and the Mediterranean on the last side. Yet almighty Israel is the prison keeper? Surely you jest.

[-] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago
[-] philo@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

An occupation does not equal a prison. Nice try though.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only way to replace apartheid is with a democratic system.

The West Bank is like an open-air prison where you send petty criminals who are allowed more time to go outside and work outside. And there's no harsh regime inside but it's still a prison. Even the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, if he moves from Area B to C, he needs the Israelis to open the gate for him. And that's for me very symbolic, the fact that the president cannot move without the Israeli jailer opening the cage.

There is, of course, a Palestinian response all the time to this. Palestinians are not passive and they don't accept it. We saw the first Intifada and the second Intifada, and perhaps we will see a third Intifada. The Israelis say to the Palestinians, in a prison management mentality, that if you resist we will take away all your privileges, like we do in prison. You won't be able to work outside. You won't be able to move freely, and you will be punished collectively. This is the kind of the punitive side of it, collective punishment as retaliation.

INTERVIEW: Ilan Pappé: How Israel turned Palestine into the biggest prison on earth

Israel controls all aspects of movement, Water, Air space, Sea access, borders, Imports (food and building supplies), Labor exploitation, and maintain the apartheid through violence

A prison, also known as a jail, gaol, penitentiary, detention center, correction center, correctional facility, or remand center, is a facility where people are confined against their will and denied a variety of freedoms under the authority of the state, generally as punishment for various crimes. Authorities most commonly use prisons within a criminal-justice system: people charged with crimes may be imprisoned until their trial; those who have pled or been found guilty of crimes at trial may be sentenced to a specified period of imprisonment.

It is absolutely an open air prison, except you get in just by being born inside the OPTs with the only court you'll ever see being a military court where even children can be taken from their families indefinitely with administrative detention

[-] philo@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Gaza Strip is not the West Bank. They are two distinct geographical locations. Why is it you Hamas apologists can't even answer simple questions with simple answers?

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza fit the definition of a prison to different degrees. Those links go into extensive detail on both. I don't know what else I can do if you refuse to look at the sources I provide for details

[-] philo@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Gaza does not equal the West Bank. I don’t know what else I can do if you refuse to use logic.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Obviously they are different territories, they are also both Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). If you want information on how Israel maintains the apartheid of both territories, I have provided you the links above. If you want a comprehensive list of the history of the OPTs I can give you more links for additional context

[-] philo@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Wait a minute. This is like a magic trick. First, it is Gaza, then the West Bank. Now it's an occupation but earlier it was a genocide. Make up your damn minds if you want anyone to take you seriously.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not a magic trick just because you don't want to engage with the sources I provide for detailed info on the subjects. The occupation began in 1967, the policies and permanence of the occupation are what maintain the apartheid of the OPTs and to a lesser extent Arab Israelis. Ethnic Cleansing has been ongoing, within the green line since 1948 and then within the OPTs after 1967. The genocide of Gaza began with the latest Gaza war

[-] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Can they travel freely? Didn't Israel bomb their only civilian airport years ago? Doesn't Israel block their sea access too?

[-] philo@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you asked why the Jews didn't leave Nazi Germany, did you forget already? There have been camps in Germany since 1938. Not all Jews were lucky enough to be outside them. that is the reason Jews could not leave. The Palestinians are not held in camps or prisons by Hamas so stop being foolish.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Are you conveniently forgetting that Israel, yes, the same Israel has expelled more than 700K Palestinians in 1948 and is still refusing to grant them the right to return? How do you justify this in your eyes?

What if it was the other way around?

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