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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 81 points 9 months ago

As a parent the idea of not being able to obtain food for my child is literally a worst nightmare.

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Your nightmares are tame, my worst nightmare is an 87-foot Donald Duck that eats memories.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Making a joke on a comment like that, on a post like this... 🤨

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Daily reminder that Donald Duck is based AF. He is canonically a war vet with PTSD, and is at least a socialist if not a full blown communist.

Donald would be protesting the Israeli genocide of the Palestinian people.

[-] Fish@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

If it eats bad memories then that sound kinda sick tbh

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

As someone with a lot of memory problems, it's actually pretty spooky feeling and confusing losing any memories good or bad. Idk probably that's different per person but even when I forget the bad the sense of loss is for real plus the "who am I" existential dread.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago

The IPC, (the people responsible for tracking and declaring famines), have released a report saying this is going to get very bad very quickly if aid isn't allowed in.

This is entirely avoidable and creating a famine is not in anyone's textbook of legitimate military strategies.

[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well in the medieval textbooks it was a valid strategy....

But this is horrific and along the lines of torture. Genocide and death by forced starvation are disgusting, despicable things that should not be happening in this modern era.

Netanyahu... or however you spell his name... will go down in history next to Hitler, sadly, and the Biden administration supporting this genocide is on the wrong side of history.

Even with all this said, I'm probably still voting for Biden in 2024. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For once, I’m glad I live in California, so I don’t have to actually vote for Biden this time (because everyone else will).

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

FPTP is barely democratic. It leaves us with vote against who you want the least. 😕

Edit: English

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Well in the medieval textbooks it was a valid strategy…

Embracing medievalism to own the heretics.

[-] Brcht@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

With how bad Trump is, it's understandable. But make sure to vote pro palestinian candidates if there are any in primaries or on the ballot.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

These animal farmers are making famines worse by driving up demand for cropland and input allocation towards feed crops. The more money is shoved into the animal farming industry, the more famine there will be in the world.

edit: if you feed food to food, you're wasting food. This isn't some obscure fact. The free market on inputs and even on land allocates the resources to who pays more - and subsidies allow the animal industry to pay more, to buy more land, to buy more inputs.

The future is plant-based. Anyone who doesn't want people to die of hunger agrees with this.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

Global farmers facing fertiliser sticker shock may cut use, raising food security risks https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-farmers-facing-fertiliser-sticker-shock-may-cut-use-raising-food-security-2021-12-09/

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I don't think that's actually the main reason the people of Gaza are starving right now.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Indeed, current famine is mostly due to war.

But food poverty, people skirting the edge of hunger, are affected by this.

We saw this when Putin invaded Ukraine and ruined the massive export of grains to developing countries and aid agencies.

And, indirectly, these animal farmers are making food crops less attractive, thus leading to less production of food crops, which means less food to give to aid agencies (assuming that the aid can reach those who need it).

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Sorry, I apparently wasn't being direct enough, let me try again; it's gross to use the starvation of Palestinian civilians, caused by an illegal blockade on humanitarian supplies, as a springboard for vegan talking points, and you should be embarrassed that you just did that.

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We get it, you're a vegan. Now, just for one second, try to not be self-centred and ask yourself whether, if you were in Gaza right now, and all you had was a thick, juicy, steak, you would eat it.

The answer is yes. If your answer is "no" then you don't understand the situation there, you don't understand hunger, try again until you do.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Animal farmers are much more likely to prevent this specific famine - when you're displaced from your home, there is no chance you'll harvest and bring your crops. There is a chance you can bring some animals with you.

I understand your point, but there's a time and place for that, and that is absolutely not here.

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[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Mate, read the room. Tone deaf posts like this are a good reason why people hate vegans. And this is coming from a fellow vegan. Palestine isn't going to avoid famine by switching to vegan now; that's completely insane! And it would still be starving even it was 100% vegan, due to, you know, a fucking genocide happening.

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[-] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

tone deaf post

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah but there's enough calories to do this right on the other side of the Israeli Gaza border. The Israeli's could end this, right now.

[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

The problem is not a lack of food. The problem is a lack of logistics to get the food to the people. And the cause of the problem is not farmers. It is the regions most powerful military activly blocking aid. Soon it will also be because the government of said country successfully lobbied to defund the aid organization with established networks with Gaza.

The solution is simple. Don't activly block food from Gaza, and food will appear in Gaza. Almost like magic. If magic was the result of decades of hard work in building a new world order after world war 2.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 48 points 9 months ago

USA, how long does this need to go on? Until genocide is completed? This is horrific.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

HAMAS murders a bunch of Israelites. Israel goes on to commit genocide.

Propagandaists: Death to Amer... I mean. Genocide Joe!!!

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago
[-] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 38 points 9 months ago

Dying implies this is happening passively… they are being killed

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 26 points 9 months ago
[-] Brcht@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Meanwhile some totally not complicit countries have cut funding to the unrwa for political gain.

I know the blockade and bombings impeding access to umanitarian trucks is a giant issue, but the impending collapse of the main provider of aid is the one thing we can colletively stop, donating to the unrwa directly.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Western journalists right now

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 28 points 9 months ago
[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Of the around 600,000 people facing starvation across the globe, 95% are now in Gaza

according to figures from the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, or IPC, a consortium of U.N. agencies and nonprofit relief groups. The figures, which the group says are their best assessment of the current situation, show that the rest live in South Sudan, which has been riven by a brutal civil war since spring 2023.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 9 months ago

There are less than a million people who are starving in the world? Really?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think there's multiple classifications of food scarcity. Starvation is different than being hungry.

The source is

Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, or IPC, a consortium of U.N

Unless we take the "UN is Hamas" route this number seems credible

People are eating grass in Gaza right now.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Public opinion is definitely skewing more towards Palestine, at least here in Britain. Where I live, I genuinely saw a pro-Palestine march back in October attended by thousands, along with Palestinian flags waved everywhere around town. Haven't seen any Israeli flags or marchers by comparison, and I don't think that's out of fear.

The only people I've seen genuinely throw support towards Israel have been Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer.

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